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Thanks for the suggestion! Anyone opinions on this?

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These posts were very timely as I was doing a search for barrel tastings today.

As a relative newcomer to mailers, I was looking for any notes re: Paul Hobbs PN's before I took the plunge and sent in an order.
My navigational skills are somewhat limited in the forums so a designated area for "new releases" or
"Has anyone had the Opportunity?", would certainly be a plus for me. But I can certainly can see how it could be folded into the commerce section that already exisits.

Lately, I saw a thread regarding what would accelerate the interest in VC
...thread drift.....check my tag......

I suggest a CMSTA. A CM Syrah Trolling Area where I can hang out by my self and just read all the theads, gain knowledge and live under a bridge in here without being called a "troll"
Sometimes those that are considered trolls are in the beginning of wineship We learn by example and readlng what our mentors suggest.
"Lurker" is fine. "Troll" dimishes my interest and effort to learn.

My genuine thanks are heartily offered to Brad for putting his hobby into a bonifide wine forum where passionate consumers are united with the elite of producers and more importantly united with friends that would otherwise not connect.

I think there are major friendships that have been established via this site, so for that alone:
Brad, well done and thank you.

Oh yeah, "spell check" might not be a bad idea.

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I like it the way it is....

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agony of whether to pitch it or buy

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IMO, there are enough sections. This kind of news can be posted in the Wine Commerce section.

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• Off Beat wines (anything that doesn't fit the categories above, such as Lebanon, Georgia, etc)

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Hey! I resemble that remark!

Seriously now, I actually like the way VC is organized - although I might even agree with your points 1 and 2 - but if we ever change things please let's not call the place were I write TNs for wines from Argentina and Chile "Off Beat wines". "Worldwide Other" might not be great either, but "off beat" is horrid.

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IMO, there are enough sections. This kind of news can be posted in the Wine Commerce section.

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I agree, and would take it a step further - I think the degree of segmentation actually works against new content, people just don't want to hunt which "dept" they should post in. Personally I would advocate:

1) The consolidation of the Northern America TNs sections from the current five forums to two:

• California Wines
• All Other North America Wines

We just don't get the traffic on WA and OR to support separate forums for these - look at the traffic there, it speaks for itself.

2) Australia and New Zealand should be combined into on section. This to me is a no-brainer.

3) The Europe TN section is also too fragmented. I'd advocate combining FRANCE into a single section of it's own, then maybe Italy, then another section for everything else. Again, look at the traffic, Spain, Germany, and European Other just don't get the attention to warrant a separate section.

4) Get rid of the "Tasting Notes - Other" section completely, let the sweet wine and port notes reside in the respective forums for that country.

5) Finally, if the above were adopted then the relative TN forums could also be consolidated, for example as follows:

TASTING NOTES:

• California Wines (White/Red/Rose)
  
• All Other North American Wines (WA, OR, NY, TX, etc)
  
• French Wines (Bordeaux, Burgundy, Alsace, Champagne, Loire, Rhone, Etc)
  
• Italian Wines (Tuscany, Piedmonte, Sicily, etc)
  
• All Other European Wines (Germany, Austria, etc)
  
• Australia & New Zealand Wines
  
• Off Beat wines (anything that doesn't fit the categories above, such as Lebanon, Georgia, etc)

The benefit of formating as I've suggested above is that many a valuable post that might get ignored under the current format would not be. Speaking for myself there are several forums I just don't check on frequently, and often find that I've missed out on interesting conversations.

I admit, I used to be an advocate for compartmentalization such as we have now, but I've seen how this has actually worked against this site, not for it. I think consolidation would help.

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Well, if Eric is digressing, I'm at least going to comment! I actually agree on everything. Except, despite the fact that I do not really drink South American wines, they should be included in one of the 'named' sections somehow (maybe with Aussie/NZ????) or at least be mentioned prominently in the Mars-suggested 'Worldwide Other' section (ex South American wines, etc).

I always thought further segregation of Europe to include sections for Germany and Spain would be good, but now I basically ignore posts there due to time constraints. I might be missing out on some good conversations and info on good juice too.

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I think I'm pretty close to you Eric.

I wish though that there was only one place/thread that had the entire genisis of an individual wine.

The thread would start when someone purchased the wine.
Then show when the wine is delivered.
Then when someone drank one along with a short tasting note or a long tasting note.

If I want to know about 2004 Kosta Browne Pinot Noir 4-Barrel all I have to do is look in one place and everything we know will have been posted in one location.

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It's called CellarTracker!