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01/09/2006 9:19 PM  
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I'll volunteer as well. The big question will be one bottle or two. I think that the latter may be better, but it will make the two coordinators' job more difficult.




Looking at a 15-top, the wine needs to be in pairs (or in large format bottles). Probably can't do much until the menu is available, but make sure in advance that stemware is at least up to the basic requirements of what will be poured.
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01/09/2006 9:36 PM  
If the stemware isn't up to snuff, do we chastise Corkage in advance or wait for the dinner? The large format idea is an interesting one. I have a mag of '88 Caymus Special Selection cab that I've never quite known what to do with.
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01/09/2006 9:45 PM  
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If the stemware isn't up to snuff, do we chastise Corkage in advance or wait for the dinner?




Just get with Corkage and find out what he might be missing. A lot of us have boxes or cases of stems that can travel, so just put out feelers beforehand based on the apparent shortcomings of the house stems.

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01/09/2006 10:06 PM  
I have always been short of suitable stemware. Dave any possibility you might bring a case of your Reidels (30 stems)?

In the alternative if you tell me where you got yours off ebay, I'll buy some if I can find some.
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01/09/2006 10:22 PM  
Corkage, I can supply anything that you need (at least for cabs and pinots). Just let me know.
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01/11/2006 9:55 PM  
OK everyone. I am going to kick off trying to get the wines coordinated. Since there are 15 attendees, it is desirable to have two bottles per wine, so this might make it hard to get the right wines together. I know I have a lot of singletons and I am guessing you all might be in the same boat. Then again, some of us might have two of a given wine or a magnum and you're all set, which is great.

Corkage has leaked an advanced menu to me (WOW!!!!) and it is going to be amazing! I am going to post later my thoughts on generally what varietals we might want to focus on to make this work well. But, when I do, I'd like the attendees to be prepared to list say a half dozen to a dozen wines that they'd like to bring, particularly if you have a lot of singles (or the population you are willing to sample from your cellar anyway, is limited to more singles). This will allow me to see what we can make some potential match-ups where different people have singles of given wines and together enough bottles of each are brought.

So, have I now made that as clear as mud?

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01/11/2006 10:28 PM  
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OK everyone. I am going to kick off trying to get the wines coordinated. Since there are 15 attendees, it is desirable to have two bottles per wine, so this might make it hard to get the right wines together. I know I have a lot of singletons and I am guessing you all might be in the same boat. Then again, some of us might have two of a given wine or a magnum and you're all set, which is great.

Corkage has leaked an advanced menu to me (WOW!!!!) and it is going to be amazing! I am going to post later my thoughts on generally what varietals we might want to focus on to make this work well. But, when I do, I'd like the attendees to be prepared to list say a half dozen to a dozen wines that they'd like to bring, particularly if you have a lot of singles (or the population you are willing to sample from your cellar anyway, is limited to more singles). This will allow me to see what we can make some potential match-ups where different people have singles of given wines and together enough bottles of each are brought.

So, have I now made that as clear as mud?




yes to everything TJ said and if you have a magnum of something, that =2 bottles

Oh and we don't need 30 bottles total, too much so coordinate amongst yourselves and with TJ on the wine
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01/11/2006 10:46 PM  
TJ is running the wine selection?? Well we are gauranteed to get to 10 pages on this thread then.

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01/11/2006 10:51 PM  
A few other thoughts from your co-wine coordinator. When pairing up wines, keep swaps in mind. If TJ has two bottles of 2003 Kongsaard and AlexRed has two bottles of 2002 Kongsaard, they should be able to work out a trade so that we end up with 2 2003's or 2 2002's at the tasting rather than one of each. In close calls, I'd always opt for the better wine rather than the best perceived match with the dish.

I'll offer up my mag of 1988 Caymus Special Select. I found an enthusiastic note on eBob for the '88 regular bottling so I have hopes that this will be good.

Corkage, if it is ok with you, I'll probably drop this by a week or so in advance so that you can stand it up (extra glasses too).
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01/12/2006 12:44 AM  
put me down for a strong zero.
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01/12/2006 2:18 AM  
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put me down for a strong zero.




Wha' happen, JohnnyB??! Dang.

Fred, you crack me up.

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01/12/2006 3:38 PM  
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put me down for a strong zero.




Wha' happen, JohnnyB??! Dang.

Fred, you crack me up.




Nothing, Johnny's fine, just his normal cynical bitter self
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01/12/2006 3:40 PM  
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put me down for a strong zero.




Wha' happen, JohnnyB??! Dang.

Fred, you crack me up.




Nothing, Johnny's fine, just his normal cynical bitter self



Johnny is cynical and bitter??? huh never noticed.

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01/12/2006 9:49 PM  
Here are some thoughts on the wines we need -- IN GENERAL -- and just in my opinion. We need two bottles of each wine, probably a total of 7-10 wines, or 14-20 bottles total. Extras for pre-dinner kibitzing and after-dinner loitering are not to be counted here.

We need a couple of heartier whites to kick off the first courses, I think, one of these should have some earthy elements to it, if possible.

For the next couple of course, I think we need some Pinot. Ideally some red Burgs, but more refined American Pinots would work, too. Please, no Pinotfandels/Zinot-Noirs. Elegance and some loaminess here would work well.

For the next courses, I think we need some big reds. One of them should be quite big (but perhaps not in your face) -- a Cab, a Zin, maybe even a more rustic Brunello? Chocolate notes in this wine would not be a bad thing. This is pretty wide open. The other I think should be a blend, Bordeaux maybe, but really, any good red would do.

The desserts are always tough to pair sweet finishing wines, to, so, I think the door is wide open on sweet wines to finish it off.

We could probably insert an extra wine here or there (two bottles) as needed to get to the 14-20 bottle range.

So, start thinking about what you'd like to bring, and, if you only have a single of it but are still willing to share it, post it here or PM me and maybe we can find another person with a corresponding bottle to still make it work.


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01/13/2006 12:06 AM  
Ok, here is your co-wine coordinator to interpret. To summarize TJ's post:

We need some white wines

Then some pinot (preferably true burgundies)

Then some other red wine (no pinots here please)

Finally we will finish with an assortment of sweet wines (hopefully as good as the last set at Komi)

In the immortal words of JohnnyB - no schlock (unless you bring nada, zip or a strong zero). If everyone brings 1 bottle that should get us in the target range (some will bring none to avoid the no-schlock requirement and some odd sorts always seem to bring more than 1 bottle, so it should all even out).
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01/13/2006 1:57 PM  
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Ok, here is your co-wine coordinator to interpret. To summarize TJ's post:

We need some white wines

Then some pinot (preferably true burgundies)

Then some other red wine (no pinots here please)

Finally we will finish with an assortment of sweet wines (hopefully as good as the last set at Komi)

In the immortal words of JohnnyB - no schlock (unless you bring nada, zip or a strong zero). If everyone brings 1 bottle that should get us in the target range (some will bring none to avoid the no-schlock requirement and some odd sorts always seem to bring more than 1 bottle, so it should all even out).




LOL Dave! Touchee!

Actually, the total we're shooting for is approximately 1 to 1.25 bottles per person. So if everyone brings at least one bottle per attendee, we should be in good shape.

Oh yes...and no plonk.

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01/13/2006 8:03 PM  
TJ, just keep doing what you are doing. Your posts will be read and understood by the food and wine buffs. My translations are for people like me that can discern red and white and little else. Corkage dinners are the great melting pot.
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01/13/2006 8:51 PM  
Corkages food melts in your mouth, not the pot.
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01/14/2006 6:56 AM  
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I'd like the attendees to be prepared to list say a half dozen to a dozen wines that they'd like to bring






TJ, you and Dave get final say, of course, but as a gesture of good faith, I think you should start things off with a dozen wines we can all vote on for you to bring I'm not worried though, I think Yellowtail makes at least six wines, so that should get my list in under the wire.

But seriously, TJ, getting two people to match up single bottles of, say, Burgundy is a tall order. We probably should just let Mr Enthusiasm (aka JohnnyB) bring all the wine, and we can just bring real bottles he can use to replace the plonk from his cellar.
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01/14/2006 5:50 PM  
I'll sort though my list this weekend. I need to update my cellar over on ct.com first. The idea of listing some poeeibles here were for folks who did not have two of the same that they'd really like to try/share is all.

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