john m.
Grape Picker
Posts:8
 | | 06/15/2005 6:27 AM |
| I’m thinking about formally proceeding with the following event and want to get a feel for whether or not there would be sufficient interest to pursue it this year or not. Tentative dates are Oct 28-30, 2005, in Napa Valley. TITLE: 1st Annual Napa Valley Symposium For Winegrowers and Internet “Talkers”
(“Talkers” = Bloggers and Forum Participants)
I would request that those interested in making a presentation during one of the speaking sessions respond to me with their interest.
I’d be looking for participants in the group sessions and each group should consist of six participants (plus moderator. Please let me know if you are interested.
I would hope to involve many small wineries as well as internet “Talkers” in the work groups and general speaker sessions.
The maximum sit down participation within the meeting facility is 300.
There would hopefully be a different number of wineries present and pouring tasting each of the three days, I’m hopeful to have a different number of fine restaurants also present providing appetizer/hors d ‘oeuvres tastings throughout each of the three days.
I'd also like to hear from those who would attend but not participate in group or be a speaker.
Agenda
All Working Group subjects are presented in the context of the winegrowing industry and participation should be threads to the interests and concern of either wine producers or wine consumers, or both.
Friday - October 28, 2005 (to be announced = TBA)
09:00 am Socializing Continental breakfast
09:30 am Welcoming Speakers (TBA)
10:00 am Work Group One A -- “The Generation of the “Click.com’ers, ” or the Art & Value of Web Site Searching & Linking.” Discussions about methods of searching the web, what kind of sites to select for linking and why. Moderator (s): (TBA)
11:30 am Break - Socializing
12 noon Lunch & Speaker: (TBA)
01:30 pm General Speakers: Subject Theme is “Women & the Internet - How They Do (or Don’t) Use It In terms of Wine Evaluation and/or Selection” ( one per 30 minutes maximum -- 25 minutes per speaker including Q & A)
03:00 pm Break -- Socializing
03:30 pm Work Group One B -- “The Impact of Wine Critics on the Consumer and on the Small Winery.” Moderator (s): (TBA)
5:00 pm Break -- Socializing
Saturday - October 29, 2005
09:30 am Socializing Continental breakfast
10:00 am Work Group Two A -- “Smaller Wineries and Internet Marketing or the Art of Internet Communications." Discussions about commercial advertising, journalistic observation & reporting versus editorializing on the internet and specifically as applied to forum participants & bloggers and the smaller wineries. Moderator (s): (TBA)
11:30 am Break - Socializing
12 noon Lunch & Speaker: (TBA)
01:30 pm General Speakers: Subject Theme is “The Impact of winery Websites on the Consumer.” ( one per 30 minutes maximum -- 25 minutes per speaker including Q & A)
03:00 pm Break -- Socializing
03:30 pm Work Group Two B -- “The importance of ‘Terrior’ to the consumer.” Discussions about geography, geology, climate, appellation boundaries, etc. to the consumer and his/her decision to purchase a wine. Moderator(s): (TBA)
5:00 pm Break -- Socializing
7:00 pm Dinner & Keynote Speaker: (TBA)
Sunday - October 30, 2005
09:30 am Socializing Continental breakfast
10:00 am Work Group Three A -- “Participation by Individuals and Wineries in Blogging & On-line Forums.” Discussions pertaining to the merits/demerits of the wine consumer and/or producer involvement in this form of participatory media. Moderator(s): (TBA)
11:30 am Break - Socializing
12 noon Lunch & Speaker: Results of the Internet “Talkers” Survey
01:30 pm General Speakers: Subject theme is “Grass root Approaches to Force Change in the Laws Governing Interstate Shipment of Wine.” Discussions about what internet "talkers" can do yo cause changes, what small wineries can do, etc. (one per 30 minutes maximum -- 25 minutes per speaker including Q & A)
03:00 pm Break -- Socializing
03:30 pm Work Group Three B -- “What is the Future of the Small Winery in Today’s Environment of Wine Industry Consolidation?” Discussions about who is really being consolidated, survival of artistic wines versus large corporate brands, etc. Moderator(s): (TBA)
5:00 pm Adjournment Closing Remarks | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:11169
| | 06/15/2005 8:11 AM |
| | I'd rather have a double orchidectomy. | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11879
| | 06/15/2005 8:51 AM |
| I might attend all of the seminars entitled 'Socializing'!  | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12265
| | 06/15/2005 12:58 PM |
| Quote:
I'd rather have a double orchidectomy.
LOL! | |
Joe
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Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Racker
Posts:1907
| | 06/15/2005 1:20 PM |
| Quote:
Quote:
I'd rather have a doubleorchidectomy.
LOL!
That's the act of getting de-flowered by twins, right?  | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12265
| | 06/15/2005 1:24 PM |
| I think you got the deflowering part correct. | |
Joe
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Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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john m.
Grape Picker
Posts:8
| | 06/17/2005 11:20 PM |
| It seems that I have developed a few followers who totally dislike my subjects and writing style . They even follow me from forum to forum to vent their dislike of my writing. That is kind of a paradoxical statement in that if you don’t like my writing why do you continue to read it and remark about it ?
To criticize my writing, to like or dislike like it, is what writing and reading are all about. I appreciate receiving construction criticism because it will help me become a better writer.
But the use of vulgarity in conversations (and descriptive wording which I find demeaning to women), among some responders - in conversations that are not even germane to the subject of my writing - to me seems to be outside of what forum etiquette is about.
I suppose my above comments will bring another onslaught of remarks by those who dislike my subjects and writing. Oh well, that’s not going to stop me because forums are places for people to “talk” about the subjects they wish to “talk “about -- hopefully without vulgarities being spewed. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Filler
Posts:1273
| | 06/18/2005 12:12 AM |
| Ew.
I don't think anyone was criticizing anyone'swriting . You asked if they'd be interested in attending your event, and now you have your answer. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12265
| | 06/18/2005 12:18 AM |
| | I think what was posted was mean't to be humorous. Obviously it offended you. I'll make a point in the future not to engage in any form of levity in your presence in the future. | |
Joe
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Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Filler
Posts:1273
| | 06/18/2005 12:47 AM |
| | Yes, I would appreciate it if you would not levitate. It kind of creeps me out. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12265
| | 06/18/2005 12:54 AM |
| | Ahh...one of those words that has a dual meaning. Perhaps I need to work on my writing skills? Thanks for the constructive criticism! | |
Joe
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Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13711
| | 06/18/2005 5:36 PM |
| | Hey thewinecntryclub, welcome to Vinocellar. I appreciate your posting here. In answer to your question, I think your proposed format is a bit too structured for me. When I get together with my fellow wine-os, I tend to like to taste and talk and eat. Most of my education tends to come in the form of sharing information with my fellow VC-itizens, not in a more formal 'sorum/symposium'. JMHO | |
www.roguefood.com -- www.cellartracker.com | |
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Randy Sloan
St. Helena
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2076
| | 06/20/2005 1:11 PM |
| WineCountryClub,
I seem to fit as your "target" participant in several ways: I'm a small winery, participate in multiple online wine forums, and write a blog for my winery. However, the schedule sounds pretty boring. Any one of those topics might be an interesting conversation with fellow vintners and consumers, but a structured weekend of it sounds grueling.
However, take those same topics, choose one per month, and start a discussion group that meets over lunch. Getting it going to a critical mass will be a challenge, but such an informal group might prove useful for participants.
Good luck. | |
Randy Sloan
Match Vineyards | |
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stemor
Collierville, TN
Wine Thief
Posts:2818
| | 06/20/2005 1:40 PM |
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... I appreciate receiving construction criticism because it will help me become a better writer.
You guys have it wrong. John isn't looking for constructive criticism regarding his idea, he wants to know if you think his new house will withstand the next "big one".
Personally, I believe that your construction is wonderful, but your idea is bad. What you miss is the fact that each internet location is a community unto itself -- randomly mixing "clickers and bloggers", if you could herd them into a room together, would get you nothing but a bunch of ... random clickers and bloggers. That sounds about as exciting to me as getting free tickets to a "Come as your favorite character" Star Trek convention *shiver* . | |
Cheers, y'all | |
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Tim
Barrel Filler
Posts:1465
| | 06/22/2005 6:02 AM |
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But the use of vulgarity in conversations (and descriptive wording which I find demeaning to women), among some responders - in conversations that are not even germane to the subject of my writing - to me seems to be outside of what forum etiquette is about.
In my best Jackie Gleason impression...
The god damn Germans got nothing to do with it... | | | |
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Marco
Barrel Filler
Posts:1046
| | 06/22/2005 4:43 PM |
| Good natured banter among forumites is one of the trademarks of this site.
It's not for everyone, but I like it! | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Racker
Posts:1907
| | 06/22/2005 5:13 PM |
| Yeah, me too!
As for 'twcc', what an ego! He/she says"It seems that I have developed a few followers who totally dislike my subjects and writing style . They even follow me from forum to forum to vent their dislike of my writing. That is kind of a paradoxical statement in that if you don’t like my writing why do you continue to read it and remark about it ?"
FOLLOWERS!!! Are you crazy?!? Between this site and WS, you have a grand total of 15 posts!!!
If you want to consider me a "follower" of yours, with only 15 posts, you gotta long way to go!
As far as remarks made about you're writing, I never said a negative word about it! But. . . I did however, do alot of talking about Pam Anderson and 'Jello shooters' because it seemed to me that the 3 day agenda you had planned, well, quite frankly needed it!  | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 06/23/2005 10:31 PM |
| I don't want any Jello shooters but if Pam Anderson is going to be there I'll sign up.
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FYI, the program does look a bit dull to me. I want to learn more about the components of tasting and recognizing different smeels and tastes. Oh yeah, I'd also like a class in spitting. | | | |
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GATC
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2420
| | 07/24/2005 5:25 PM |
| | When I first read this, I thought it was VinoMe (I think that was his moniker) who did some great spoofs in the WS Forum. I didn't think this was real. I guess there are still people around who take themselves seriously. | | | |
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