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10/22/2007 1:01 PM  

Just got back from Vegas last night, after a week in San Fran and Napa.  Here goes:

Thurs - first night there.  Ate at Alex in the Wynn.  It was excellent, though I don't know if the price really warranted it.  However, it was probably wasted, since Weds. night we had eated at French Laundry in Napa.  Enough said.


Dinner was $145, I believe, withouth gratuity.  The plate of amuse bouche was nice - tuna tartare (I think that if I see one more tuna tartare......), tomato confit on grissini breadsticks, some nice cheeses in brioche, etc.  Started with gnocchi and chestnuts, with crispy chicken.  This was very nice, and not too filling.  Entree was loin of lamb en papillotte and dessert was a hazelnut caramel crunch with praline ice cream.  Had a pinot, but it was something I'd never heard of and didn't write it down.  Nothing too special.  Prices were obscene.  If I get the name of what we had, I'll post it.

Fri. - had tickets for Barry Manilow at 8pm, so we had something light.  He puts on a great show.

Sat night - dinner at Le Cirque in the Bellagio.  This was really excellent.  Just as good as the restaurant in NY.  The room only holds 75, and it was very pretty.  If you sit in the corner, you can watch the fountains.  The amuse was a very nice cup of chestnut soup.  Very flavorful.  Started with an excellent lobster salad.  Entree was a really great magret of duck, skin was nicely crisped.  Accompanied by a roasted fig and daikon radish.  Not too big a portion, just right, so there was room for dessert.  My friend had the pappillotte of turbot - if you watched Top Chef, that was the entree they made at Le Cirque in NY.  Dessert was wonderful.  It was a hazelnut ice cream inside a crisp hazelnut dark chocolate shell.  They then poured chocolate sauce on top, and the shell melted.  It was wonderful.  Wine was Husic Cab 2004.  Wasn't as big a cab as I expected, but it was very drinkable.

I definitely recommend Le Cirque.   Alex, not so sure.  If we had more time, we would have gone to Alize at the Palms Hotel, which we've been to and really like in the past.

 

 

 

 

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10/23/2007 1:47 PM  
Does Le Cirque still have their strict policy of absolutely no BYOB?

One night I brought a 375 of Yquem with me (they serve the largest piece of Foie I have ever seen).  They took it from me and stored it in their cellar for the dinner.  Well, as is usual, we closed the place.  The Somm had gone home and took the keys to the cellar with him.  "Pick it up tomorrow morning" they said.

Next morning the placed is locked up tighter than a drum and not supposed to open until 5:00pm.  (I've got a 2:00pm flight out).  I went next door to Circo;  they were open.  I told them my plight.  Fortunately the Somm was there.  He says, "You mean that half bottle of 1989?  We drank that one last night.  Was that yours?".  

Uhhhh...  I bought another couple of bottles when I got home and they sent me the money.

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10/23/2007 3:56 PM  
Not sure about the BYOB.  Unfortunately, I don't have that problem with Yquem - I don't have any.
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11/11/2007 1:48 PM  
Seen on a Vegas blog:

The highly touted Michelin dining guide accidentally posted ratings for Las Vegas and Los Angeles restaurants to its website the other day, taking all of the steam out of their highly anticipated announcement on Monday.

Here's the Vegas winners:

Michelin Guide Las Vegas : Three-Star Restaurants

Joel Robuchon - MGM Grand

Michelin Guide Las Vegas : Two-Star Restaurants

Alex - Wynn Las Vegas
Guy Savoy - Caesars Palace
Picasso - Bellagio

Michelin Guide Las Vegas : One-Star Restaurants

Alize, Palms
Andre's - Monte Carlo
Aureole - Mandalay Bay
Bradley Ogden - MGM Grand
Daniel Boulud Brasserie - Wynn Las Vegas
L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon - MGM Grand
Le Cirque - Bellagio
Mesa Grill - Caesars
Michael Mina - Bellagio
Mix - Mandalay Bay
Nobu - Hard Rock Hotel
Wing Lei - Wynn



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11/11/2007 5:37 PM  
Where's Lotus of Siam :-)
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11/11/2007 7:19 PM  
Seriously - I'm going to Lotus of Siam in 1.5 hours. Can't wait!!
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11/11/2007 10:27 PM  
Good god Tex, hello west coast tour!!! Have a blast at Lotus!
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11/12/2007 8:09 PM  
Why is L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon - MGM Grand both a one-star and three star restaurant?

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11/12/2007 8:37 PM  
Paul - We are here in the MGM now and we are going to L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon tonight.  Will report!  They are two restaurants side-by-side and the difference seems to be that Robuchon is the quiet, formal French restaurant and the L'Atelier is "counter service".

Here is a link to someone's blog about the concept.

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11/13/2007 9:37 AM  
Winetex - Please report on L'Atelier, as I am dining there tomorrow night.  My main question is...  Do they allow BYOB?

Are you at NAR?  I'm in vegas wed & thu to learn about real estate.  I suddenly need to be an expert, but I am starting from scratch.Â
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11/13/2007 9:47 AM  
Posted By Winetex on 11/12/2007 8:37 PM
Paul - We are here in the MGM now and we are going to L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon tonight.  Will report!  They are two restaurants side-by-side and the difference seems to be that Robuchon is the quiet, formal French restaurant and the L'Atelier is "counter service".
I've been to L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon in Paris, where I had a very excellent meal.  I loved the sleek black lacquer Japanese sensibility of the place.  Plus, it is here that I had the only kidney dish that I actually enjoyed!  No organ flavors at all - French magic, I say.

I hope your meal was as memorable as mine was.

P.S.  Finally, after three pages of this thread, it's cool to see someone taking my advice!

Posted By Paul_H on 09/03/2007 9:44 PM
If I were going to Vegas (not likely) I'd be tempted to try L'atelier De Joel Robuchon at the MGM Grand. And then, of course, there's the perennial eBob favorite: Lotus of Siam of which I have never heard a disparaging word.



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11/13/2007 10:35 AM  
Posted By Paul_H on 11/13/2007 9:47 AM

P.S.  Finally, after three pages of this thread, it's cool to see someone taking my advice!

Posted By Paul_H on 09/03/2007 9:44 PM
If I were going to Vegas (not likely) I'd be tempted to try L'atelier De Joel Robuchon at the MGM Grand. And then, of course, there's the perennial eBob favorite: Lotus of Siam of which I have never heard a disparaging word.



Funny, I am going to Vegas in 3 weeks and was thinking of those 2 places. Never been to LOS but have been to LDJR in Paris.
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11/13/2007 1:31 PM  
Are you at NAR? I'm in vegas wed & thu to learn about real estate. I suddenly need to be an expert, but I am starting from scratch.�


Randy, I'm just here for a couple of days on vacation. We went up to Seattle first and then stopped here. I'm at the airport now.

I'll write up both meals on the plane but in short Lotus is always a winner but with a huge menu it's good to know what to order. We had one dish that was not good but the rest made up for it. This sounds weird but any dish with their homemade sausages is a good bet.

Paul, yes we took both your advice and Dgoerischs on LDJR. WOW, it that a meal. It may be one of my top 10 meals ever. Definitely one of the most expensive. Robuchon was actually in the ktichen as he was in town for publicity because of the new ratings. I am going to write up more on it but you had to see the precision of that kitchen. Because it was the open kitchen concept we could Robuchon and his top two guys from France scaring the staff silly. They were almost whispering, it was great to watch.
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11/16/2007 9:38 AM  
LDJR is very very good, but not all the dishes hit the mark. I think David needs to go there, just because they have so many different Foie courses. The amuse bouch of foie gras in a shot glass is outstanding. I had "Le Burger", a miniature combo of tenderloin with foie. Quite possibly the best burger I've had in my life, definitely better than db Moderne's offering. Bressler should go just for the burger.

Also hit Bouchon for breakfast, as I was staying at the venetian. Service was horrible, even though it was not crowded. Is it just me, or does it burn you up when the hostess tries to seat you at a table, you say, "How about that one?" pointing to a table three positions away, and she says "That section is closed". WTF? And the service went downhill from there. Food was good, not great. Finally, hit Delmonico's just before heading to the airport. Had the truffled potato chips, which were outstanding, as well as the blackened shrimp, which were very good. Once again I had a burger, which was very good, but paled in comparison to the offering at LDJR.

Next time I will go to the real "Robuchon" restaurant for the full fancy service and see how it is. I suspect it will meet my expectations.
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11/16/2007 1:20 PM  
The amuse bouch of foie gras in a shot glass is outstanding.


This was really amazing.

Here are my thoughts about the meal with some recommendations:

Dinner at L'Atelier de JoËl Robuchon.

Amuse Bouche – foie gras with something else maybe bacon and parmesan reggiano; pureed into a froth - WOW, have never tasted anything like that.

 

LES HUITRES de Kussi pochées dans leur coquille au beurre salé
Poached baby Kussi oysters with French « Echiré » butter

 

I had this with a glass of Sancerre.   The combination was excellent.  When they say that these are small tasting portions they mean it.ÂMy dish was five very small oysters.  Lovely presentation.

 

Hubby’s starters:

 

LA LANGOUSTINE dans une papillote croustillante au basilic
Crispy langoustine fritter with basil pesto


Served with a glass of good Meursault
 

This was excellent but was only three big bites of Langoustine.  Superb flavors and texture.

 

LES LEGUMES méditerranéens en mille-feuille à la mozzarella
Mediterranean vegetables layered with buffalo mozzarella

 

I don’t remember much about this one.

 

Main courses:

 

L'ONGLET de boeuf à l'échalote
French-style hanger steak with fried shallots

Mr. Winetex said this was excellent.ÂI tried one of the fried shallots and he was right.ÂYum.ÂThis was served with some mashed potatoes that may have been half butter.ÂHighly recommended.


Beef tenderloin with pepper

It was served with beautiful tiny potatoes and also the bowl of mashed potatoes.ÂIt was an excellent steak, perfectly cooked.


Desserts:

LA FRAMBOISE en surprise dans une coque ivoire acidulée au yuzu
Fresh raspberry surprise inside white chocolate sphere, yuzu ice cream


This was an amazing dessert if you like white chocolate and raspberries.ÂYuzu is apparently a Japanese citrus so it picked up some citrus flavors.ÂThey brought out a sphere of white chocolate on a plate then poured the raspberry sauce over it so that the sphere melted in a beautiful pattern.ÂNot only did this look spectacular but it tasted great!ÂHighly recommended.


LES TARTES de tradition
Traditional tarts

This was a plate with five different tarts – three of them chocolate.ÂOne of them they actually called Snickers but it wasn’t on the menu.  Hubby gave this thumbs up.


I wished we would have had the Foie Gras hamburgers but hubby doesn’t like Foie Gras very much.


The sommelier was knowledgeable about the wines on the list.ÂOnce he realized we were winos he started letting us try the different wines they had open by the glass.ÂThe list was large and French-centric with a whopping 3X mark-up.ÂWe wanted to drink Burgundy but our meals would have killed any of the ones on the list so we went with a very good Rhone – the 2003 Marcoux CdP.


In all a fantastic meal with very unique food and presentation.ÂIt was difficult for us to decide how much to order but the waitstaff helped out quite a bit.ÂThe open kitchen concept is interesting to watch.ÂWith Joel Robuchon actually in the kitchen the staff was walking on eggshells.ÂHe was totally quiet and hardly said a word, just pointed and stared.ÂI think that was enough.ÂRobuchon was going between the LDJR kitchen and the Robuchon kitchen.ÂLDJR deserves its one star rating but be prepared for some sticker shock at the end.ÂThe website says $125 per person and that was about right WITHOUT tax, gratuity and most importantly wine.

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11/17/2007 4:22 PM  

How great of a dinner is it when you can actually write -

"I don’t remember much about this one"

about a course?  I'm lusting away; well done.

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11/17/2007 8:14 PM  
It was my husband's dish and I was rather enthralled with my oysters.Â
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11/17/2007 11:36 PM  
To chime in here, "Le Legumes" were fantastic. Roasted vegetables with buffalo mozzarella with a light drizzle of balsamic reduction...


Winetex - the foie gras amuse has a steamed port wine reduction on top, which increased the sweetness. I agree, this amuse was outstanding.

"Le Burger" is truly outstanding. I would go back for it alone. Bressler has not lived until he has had this one...
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11/24/2007 1:05 AM  

Winetex - was it hard to get a reservation? We'll be there in late January....

 

 


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11/24/2007 1:47 PM  
Kpak - no not difficult although we were there on a Monday evening. We got right in for a 7:30 reserv. Just give them a call. It looked like they only had the outlying reservation times (5 or 10 pm) on the website.
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