GATC
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2420
 | | 11/22/2003 2:19 AM |
| | The wonderful sweet wine you mentioned in your original post is actually pronounced - reese ling | | | |
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NorCalVinoLover
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2202
| | 12/29/2003 5:15 PM |
| Interesting ........ The topic of pronuciation of this wonderful wine came up this weekend at our tasting.
So, let me get this straight, either pronunciation 'so-t-earn' or 'saw-turn' would be acceptable to this group as long as the "S" at the end is silent. The spelling is always "Sauternes" singular or plural. Correct?
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 12/29/2003 10:54 PM |
| | I don't know about 'so-t-earn' but other than that... correct! | | | |
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Wineaux
New Orleans, LA
Barrel Filler
Posts:1414
| | 12/31/2003 3:16 AM |
| | FWIW, I now interact several times a week with a group of French businessmen. While trying to regain my ability to speak the moderate amount of French I learned in high school, I was recently reminded by one of my French colleagues that the last consonant in French words are usually silent. In addition, I've always pronounced French names here in Louisiana ending in "ternes" as "turn." I believe David's pronunciation of Sauternes is the correct one. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts:12
| | 01/12/2004 1:41 PM |
| Certainly not "turn" (I mean anywhere but in Louisiana, of course).
The "oh" is about right, I'd say more like in the Scottish for "know"...
And the "ernes" more like the "e" in "rent".
And give it a bit of "uh" at the end
And don't talk to it too much, anyway. Might start to look weird.
How's that for a first post on this forum, he?
Feliz año! | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 01/12/2004 3:42 PM |
| Hey Rik, Welcome.
Where you from. Might you be a new international member?
Are you a Sauternes nut? I certainly am! | | | |
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NorCalVinoLover
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2202
| | 01/12/2004 4:30 PM |
| Welcome Rik !!
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts:12
| | 01/12/2004 4:38 PM |
| - Thanks for the welcome.
- Belgium. On a special mission from the WS forum.
- No, just a nut.
But I like most kinds of well made wine. Thus Sauternes, Beerenausleses et al too. | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13711
| | 01/12/2004 4:44 PM |
| Quote:
- Thanks for the welcome.
- Belgium. On a special mission from the WS forum.
- No, just a nut.
But I like most kinds of well made wine. Thus Sauternes, Beerenausleses et al too.
ooo ooo did I lure you over, rik? | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts:12
| | 01/12/2004 4:54 PM |
| | Well, you told me to piss off on WS.... | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13711
| | 01/12/2004 5:28 PM |
| Quote:
Well, you told me to piss off on WS....
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 01/12/2004 10:59 PM |
| | What? Our TJ? I can't believe that NOT! | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13711
| | 01/13/2004 4:20 AM |
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What? Our TJ? I can't believe that NOT!
Well, I DID say use your best British accent, or would that be English accent? Correct me please oh KillerB! When you use whatever one you're supposed to use it sounds more classy-like. yeah | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Stomper
Posts:152
| | 01/13/2004 7:09 AM |
| | Hey, Rik, welcome! Good to see you here! | | | |
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KillerB
Barrel Racker
Posts:1533
| | 01/13/2004 9:09 AM |
| | Hi Rik - good to have you over here. I thought TJ was telling me to piss off! | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11879
| | 01/13/2004 10:16 AM |
| KillerB... he says that to EVERYBODY sooner or later!  | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts:12
| | 01/13/2004 5:13 PM |
| Hi, guys.
Now, calm down, people, this is a strictly wine related forum.
We all know now how to pronounce Sauternes, it's got nothing to do with pommy accents or whatnot.
For our next lesson I would suggest the pronunciation of "Château Ducru-Beaucaillou".
Who wants to give it a go? Hint: more Scottish vowels may be applied here.
BTW, the P.Off. had to do with KillerB's cats and how they relate to white wine. Or didn't it? | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13711
| | 01/13/2004 5:29 PM |
| | Indeed it did, Rik, now that you mention it. | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Stomper
Posts:152
| | 01/14/2004 9:40 AM |
| Ok, here we go -
Chateau Ducru-Bocaillou:
Chah- toh Du-cru Boh-kah-you
I wonder, is there a scottish vowel for "Ducru" - that would be nealry a swedish y or a german ü, right?
The "you" would have a scottish twang and the R in Ducru would be nasal...
Where are my French school books when I need them. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts:12
| | 01/14/2004 12:17 PM |
| OK, Markus, now that this thread is totally gone to the dogs, and this being largely my fault, let's get on with it.
I don't think the last syllable is pronounced in a Scottish way. that would be more like a "yergh".
It's more like the "u" in "utensils". And let them go look for the Scandinavian "y", the German "ü" or the Dutch "u", I don't see any anglosaxon similarity.
The "r" is one of the few un-nasal consonants in French. You meant: a rolling "r". Here again, Billy Connelly can be of grrreat help.
Do you realize, Markus, that we are giving away our head start here? | | | |
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