Trab  
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
 | | 04-02-2004 07:31 PM |
| Some friends of mine gave me a pretty nice gift for my birthday, a 750ml bottle of 1995 Chateau Leoville-Poyferre. The one stipulation they had is that we have to invite them over when we decide to crack it.
I'm wondering what people on the board think about whether this wine should be opened fairly soon, or if it should/can be cellared for a few more years.
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 04-02-2004 07:34 PM |
| | i am not 100% sure but i would say it is a bit early. from what i am reading the 95's are still pretty hard and shut down. parker also writes the drinking window starts at 2005. hope that helps a bit. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 04-02-2004 07:39 PM |
| | I agree with the man on horseback. Since you have only one bottle, I'd wait til it was 12-15 years old (from vintage date). | | | |
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Trab
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
| | 04-02-2004 07:43 PM |
| | Excellent. I'll wait until 2006-2007 before cracking it. Or maybe I'll buy a few more bottles. From what I've seen on this site, it's one of the more affordable Bordeaux out there, or am I mixing this up with a different bottling? | | | |
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Carl
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 462
| | 04-02-2004 07:51 PM |
| | I concur with the previous opinions, leaning more toward Board-O's advice if you only have one bottle. All 1995 Bordeauxs at around this level I have (foolishly) tried have been backward, tannic and closed. E.g. d'Armailhac, Haut Bages Liberal, Duhart-Milon. It seems like a vintage that will need a lot of cellaring to blossom into its full potential | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 04-02-2004 07:56 PM |
| It's the least expensive of three sisters, but it also usually gets a few points lower in the ratings. It's a relatively good QPR usually for Bordeaux.
OK. I hope you're happy. You made me dig through my old copies of the Wine Advocate.
Edited to correct error. The info I removed from this post was incorrect. The correct info is in my second post after this one. | | | |
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Trab
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
| | 04-02-2004 08:04 PM |
| LOL... 
OK, I will keep this bottle in the basement for a while longer then. I'll gladly take a 93-point wine. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 04-02-2004 08:05 PM |
| | Damn! Wait a second. I think I looked up the 1996. I'll run back down to the basement and doub;e check that. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 04-02-2004 08:10 PM |
| | I'm going to edit out the mistake. Sorry. That info was for the 1996, not the 1995. Here is the correct info for the 1995. 88-90, drink 2001-2020. I guess 2007 will be fine for this wine. Sorry for the confusion. | | | |
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Trab
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
| | 04-02-2004 08:13 PM |
| | No worries... I appreciate your taking the time to look this up. Maybe a subscription to eBob is worth it, eh? | | | |
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Trab
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
| | 04-02-2004 08:20 PM |
| | I just checked one of the local online shops (www.haskells.com) and they lhave the 95 Leoville-Poyferre on sale for $89.99 a bottle. Anyone know if this is a deal or a ripoff? | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 04-02-2004 08:46 PM |
| | $90 for an 88 to 90 point wine? I wouldn't buy it. Check on the 1996. That's a 93 point wine. | | | |
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Trab
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
| | 04-02-2004 08:52 PM |
| | Cool. I'm a complete newbie when it comes to French wines, so I have no idea what the price points are, etc. Haskell's is one of the few places I know of in the area that has a decent selection of French wines, so I usually use them as a reference. Maybe I won't be shopping there much anymore.... | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 04-02-2004 11:00 PM |
| here is a full up to date tn from mr . parker:
Robert Parker 90 points Drink 2005-2030 $39.00
While not as backward as the 1996, the opaque purple-colored 1995 is a tannic, unevolved, dense, concentrated wine that will require 8-10 years of cellaring. The 1995 exhibits pain grille, blackcurrant, mineral, and subtle tobacco in its complex yet youthful aromatics. Powerful, dense, concentrated cassis and blueberry flavors might be marginally softer than in the 1996, but there is still plenty of grip and structure to this big wine. Anticipated maturity: 2005-2030.
enjoy and don't let the old guy confuse you | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 04-02-2004 11:52 PM |
| | anthony, where did you find that? I went back through the index for each year and only found the early notes. I never saw the '95 mentioned again. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 04-03-2004 03:06 AM |
| | from erobertparker.com | | | |
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Trab
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
| | 04-03-2004 04:50 AM |
| $39.00??? Wow.. either the local shop is screwing the customer hard, or getting the vino to MN must be expensive. I'm guessing it's the first option myself...
Thanks for the TN! Hopefully I'll like it enough to buy more from other vintages, as the price point seems right for me. | | | |
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Carl
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 462
| | 04-03-2004 09:09 AM |
| For prices, you can look up pretty much any major wine on www.wine-searcher.com
You'd be surprised at the discrepancies out there in price... | | | |
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Trab
Grape Destemmer
Posts: 57
| | 04-03-2004 02:15 PM |
| Great link!
Thanks much | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 04-03-2004 02:55 PM |
| trab,
that was the theorotical release price when parker reviewed it back however many years ago. | | | |
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