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05/26/2003 8:05 PM  
Occasionally I purchase a wine that is wrapped in paper. Would you store this wine in the cellar with the paper on or remove it? I can see how it would help protect the label. I'm guessing it wouldn't hurt if not help the re-sell value as it would be in its' original condition from the winery. Are there any negatives to cellaring it with the paper on? Will the humidity cause problems with the paper and the underlying label?

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05/26/2003 10:43 PM  
My impression is that the tissue paper wrappers are worthless tidbits added for cosmetic value. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

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05/26/2003 10:51 PM  
The tissue is used to protect the label of the wine. Some may consider this a waste, but for very expensive/rare wines it is nice since the resale value of wine which has a torn label is significantly lowered.
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05/26/2003 10:52 PM  
actually, when you are moving cartons of wine around, some labels, for example those with embossed printing, can get scuffed or marked up. Tissue wrapping reduces this problem and otherwise protects the packaging.

However, I personally don't like the look of tissue wrapped bottles in individual bottle racking, so I remove the tissue as soon as I get the wine.
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05/26/2003 11:52 PM  
i think all wines should be wrapped in paper. i love it when paper is used for anything. then again, i love junk mail.
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05/26/2003 11:59 PM  
What about the humidity of the cellar? Do you think it would wet the paper over time and damage the label underneath?

Joe
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05/27/2003 12:02 AM  
wiml,
I bet that if the humidity is high enough to wet the paper, it is high enough to get mold growing on your labels.
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05/27/2003 12:05 AM  
My cellar doesn't have a humidty issue itself; hopefully things will stay that way.

I have some "test" bottles in there right now: 5 x 1999 Swanson Alexis. I'm going to watch these bottles for a while and check to see if the paper ever becomes damp. Should be a completely boring experience.

Joe
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05/27/2003 12:35 AM  
What most stated here is what I heard. I remove the paper as soon as I get the bottle(s).
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05/27/2003 1:26 AM  
Ojeffso2---

Too funny.

What about junk e-mail? I have plenty I can give you.
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05/27/2003 3:27 AM  
I try to leave the wrappers on as long as possible. They usually tear when I put them in the slots or in the cardboard boxes. At 71% RH, it does not get wet.
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05/27/2003 3:39 AM  
I agree with ojeffso.

Like I had to say THAT!

Cheers, y'all
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05/27/2003 4:14 AM  
ok. you people in the paper industry need to stay out of this.

I personally don't really mind the tissue, but don't feel it is of any use either. I think it depends on how you store your wine. If you use racking, then it really shouldn't matter. If you store it in bins or bottle-to-bottle then it might keep the labels from rubbing and scuffing
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05/27/2003 4:53 AM  
Smaug,

I speak for all us tree killin', air foulin', water contaminatin' paper industry types when I say: LOL


Cheers, y'all
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05/27/2003 12:42 PM  
i have seen some wines protected with plastic wrap. not environmentally sound. i prefer the natural protector, paper.
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05/27/2003 12:42 PM  
You guys are making me want to walk out front and hug my trees.

Joe
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05/27/2003 6:29 PM  
Phelps uses both. For the Insignia they use plastic and for the Backus they use paper (wrapped several times around the bottle).
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