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02/03/2006 4:42 AM  
Yes, yes a newbie at wine bar, I'm making big steps here. I wanted to get some suggestions as to which flight to order. If anything looks really good please let me know. Otherwise, i would just go and take a stab at something. I'm not really fimilar with Italian wines so maybe someone could give me some suggestions as to what to order...
here are some of the possible flights

Flight 1- TRE VENEZIE REDS $14.00
Bardolino Classico Bertani 2001
Marzemino,Battistotti 2000
Merlot,Lagaria 2002

Flight 2- VALPOLICELLA $19.00
Valpolicella, Righetti 2000
Valpolicella Classico Superiore Ripasso, Corteforte 1999
Amarone Classico, Corteforte 1998

Flight 3 - PIEDMONTE REDS $15.00
Dolcetto, Le Strette 2002
Freisa d'Asti,La Zucca2001
Barbera d'Alba,Pio Cesare 2001

Flight 4 CENTRAL REDS $15.00
Montepulciano d'AbruzzoVilladoro (Abruzzo) 2001
Sangiovese “Medoro”Umani Ronchi (Marche) 2001
Sangiovese di Toscana Cecchi (Tuscany) 2001

Flight 5 TUSCAN REDS - $17.00
Morellino di Scansano, Rocca delle Macie 2002
Rosso di Montalcino, Caparzo 2000
Carmignano, Capezzana 2000

Flight 6 SOUTHERN REDS $16.00
Primitivo, Sabatucci Del Taranitino (Puglia) 2002
Salice Salentino Riserva, Taurino (Puglia) 1999
Sicilia Rosso, Colosi (Sicily) 2001
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02/03/2006 1:39 PM  
None of those choices involve particularly good wine. However, I'd go for the Valpolicella 1st and the Southern reds 2nd.

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02/03/2006 2:17 PM  
I wouldn't go to an Italian wine bar.
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02/03/2006 3:09 PM  
As Whiner notes the overall quality level is not great with these flights. I would go for 3,4,5 out of this mix. Having some type of food available will increase your enjoyment when tasting Italian wines.

Good luck and enjoy!
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02/03/2006 4:29 PM  
Exactly what Board O said.
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02/03/2006 5:43 PM  
I wouldn't want to paint with so broad a brush, but the one Italian Wine Bar near me gets high praise from the hip, happenin' crowd that is easily fooled by style and who know nothing about wine. In reality, the wine list is impenetrably bad, peppered with cheap, obscure Italian wines that have rightly earned those adjectives.

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02/03/2006 5:56 PM  
I'd go with number five but seriously if I were you I'd forget about what a bunch of winegeeks think and just enjoy the experience as an organic whole rather than drilling down to which flight of pours might be better then the next.
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02/03/2006 7:08 PM  
I assume you are going with other people. And I assume they are all healthy.

Everyone could order a different flight and then share around the table (I know, the pours are small). But if you find one flight that you think is better than the others order another couple of rounds of that.

I do hope they have at least some bread and/or crackers to munch on. Most of the Italian wines I have had are so dry that I have become uncomfortable without haveing some food to moisten up my mouth (so to speak).

A wine bar is more of a social thing than a tasting thing. Just relax and enjoy and keep a mental note if you find something you like. If you don't (which I usually find to be the case in places like this) then at worst you have had a nice night out with friends.
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02/03/2006 8:33 PM  
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Yes, I thought it would be a good idea to experience a couple different wines and enjoy the night out with my girlfriend. I cant really tell how "good" a wine is yet by everyones standards, but I do know what I like. And all im really looking for is to drink wine that I enjoy and learn as much as I can in the process. I'm 22 yrs old by the way.

It seemd like everyone thought these wines were poor so, if anyone has any suggestions as to which wines to try, im all ears.
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02/04/2006 1:28 AM  
You shouldn't say that you don't know how to tell how good a wine is. Suffice it to say that any wine you like is a good wine. If you don't like it it is a bad wine. It's as simple as that. The whole thing is a matter or personal taste.

Wine is like women. Line up 100 women... there will be two that are really ugly and there will be a half dozen that are startling beautiful The other 92 probably look just fine but you have no idea what they are really like until you sample each and every one.

So put $2-Chuck and K-Mart Select in the ugly the ugly catagory.
Put Marcassin, Harlan, Screaming Eagle, Sloan, Abreu and Loring* in the beautiful catagory. And then there is everything else. You just gotta try them all. It's a tough job but somebody has to do it.


*I put Loring on the list because I have to look at his ugly puss tonight at dinner at my house . Maybe I'll change it tomorrow.
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02/04/2006 2:29 AM  
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like women..... you have no idea what they are really like until you sample each and every one.



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02/04/2006 3:05 AM  
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You shouldn't say that you don't know how to tell how good a wine is. Suffice it to say that any wine you like is a good wine. If you don't like it it is a bad wine. It's as simple as that. The whole thing is a matter or personal taste.




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Drink it all or mix it up and just enjoy the experience. See what you like and what you don't. But above all enjoy yourself. There is no right or wrong way to 'get in to wine'...Well, that's not true. The right way is to drink so. Urp.

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02/12/2006 2:44 PM  
i will second what jones says. just enjoy yourself and learn the profile of whatever flight you drink. i always tell my wife's newbies friends to begin inexpensive and try as much different wine as possible.
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02/12/2006 9:16 PM  
aes0300,

So how was it?
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