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12/25/2005 9:21 PM  
OK, I bought this bottle yesterday and enjoyed it very much. THere was maybe a half glass left in the bottle from yesterday and I poured it and started drinking it and it didnt taste the same at all. It tasted "stronger" if you know what I mean. How do I tell if the wine is undrinkable now? How long can you leave a wine once it is uncorked? I did put the cork backj in the bottle for overnight, but the "goodness" of the wine was gone today.
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12/26/2005 11:36 PM  
no one wants to answer this one? Oh well...thanks!
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12/26/2005 11:48 PM  
Sorry - didn't see this thread as I haven't done the usual scouring of the board through the holidays.

I'm not sure which exact wine you had, but for me, I generally find cheaper wines do not hold up well overnight. Typically, I use a vacucin rubber sealer (and pump) to remove as much air as possible from the bottle. This helps many younger and/or bigger wines survive a day (or several in some cases) after being opened.

Some wines, and again generally speaking the cheaper/less structured ones, fall apart and oxidize at a more rapid rate - thus making the wine taste worse than originally opened.

Which specific wine did you try?
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12/27/2005 12:13 AM  
I had the Martin Ray Angeline Sonoma County Cabernet Sauvignon. It was a really good wine for my taste, although it only cost about 12.00.
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12/27/2005 2:09 PM  
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....I generally find cheaper wines do not hold up well overnight...




I tend to agree here.

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...I use a vacucin rubber sealer (and pump) to remove as much air as possible from the bottle. This helps many younger and/or bigger wines survive a day (or several in some cases) after being opened....




I do this as well on the rare occasion that there is any wine left in the bottle.

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12/27/2005 10:17 PM  
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I generally find cheaper wines do not hold up well overnight.




Interestingly enough, I find expensive wines empty the next day.
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12/27/2005 10:46 PM  
This is a serious answer...

If it doesn't taste good to you it is bad and don't drink it. You are the only one that counts when you are the one drinking it.

This goes for a wine just opened as well as one that has stood for more than several hours.

As far as "next day wine" you MUST get as much of the oxygen out of the bottle before leaving it to rest for the next day. Even then IMO only maybe 10% of those are drinkable. I personally think that there is no way (with maybe the exception of Port) that a wine gets "better" after more than eight hours open.
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12/28/2005 1:17 AM  
When a wine is bottled, it is placed in a dark-colored bottle (to shield it from light) and an inert gas is added to drive out oxygen(to remove the oxygen which acts as a catalyst). It is then put into a climate-controlled warehouse (to shield it from heat). When the consumer opens the bottle, he changes the environment so a chemical reaction takes place. The wine is exposed to air, the wine is exposed to light, and it is moved. I do not think the wine was or went bad. You changed it. If you want less change, remove the air from the bottle, place in into a 55 degree environment, and shut out light. Also, remember that every time you change wine you lose some of the fruit. In wine that are drinking is not fruit foward, this can give the wine a hard edge.

You can find out more in a text called the University Wine Course.

Hope this helps.

Pete

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