Winetex
Austin, Texas
Master of Wine
Posts:10371
 | | 12/28/2004 6:23 PM |
| I thought the article below was interesting regarding the storage of open champagne and the myth of the "Silver Spoon".
Personally I store open champagne (usually NV) for up to three days for drinking and after that for cooking. There is usually not much of it to store. 
Silver Spoon | | | |
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Robert Prosperino
Brewster, NY
Barrel Sampler
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Seaquam
Barrel Filler
Posts:1141
| | 12/28/2004 10:22 PM |
| Yeah, I saw that article too.
It's funny, but whenever we've opened a bottle of sparkling wine it's been with the understanding that it must be consumed immediately. On those very rare occasions when we couldn't/didn't finish a bottle, I'd just throw it in the fridge and usually try it again next day, when it inevitably seemed to still be OK. I figured I had just gotten lucky.
I'm glad I've finally learned the reason why these wines will keep their bubbles for a couple of days. Ya gotta love that science.  | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Stomper
Posts:152
| | 12/29/2004 12:25 PM |
| | One of my pet hates (pet peevee? is that the word?) that silver spoon idea. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2042
| | 12/29/2004 12:54 PM |
| I don't recall ever having that dilemma.
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Rothko
Palm Beach
Wine Thief
Posts:2842
| | 12/29/2004 3:31 PM |
| | Like Seaquam, when I open a bottle of bubbly it is with the expectation that it will be completely drunk at that time. | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13627
| | 12/30/2004 2:41 AM |
| Champagne once open, is consumed. Period.  | |
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juggernt
Tampa, FL, USA
Wine Bottler
Posts:3317
| | 01/03/2005 3:02 PM |
| I have found the perfect storage for open champagne:
My belly . | |
Visit The Butcher Block at http://www.butcherblocktampa.com/ | |
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Rothko
Palm Beach
Wine Thief
Posts:2842
| | 01/03/2005 3:29 PM |
| LOL!!
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dinwiddie
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2142
| | 01/03/2005 3:59 PM |
| Quote:
Champagne once open, is consumed. Period.
Ditto | | | |
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Fred
Wine Thief
Posts:2673
| | 01/03/2005 7:54 PM |
| | There is a reason why a champagne cork has no chance of fitting back into the bottle once it's opened.... | |
"It's better to have your enemies inside the tent pissing out, then outside the tent pissing in." -- Lyndon Johnson | |
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KillerB
Barrel Racker
Posts:1533
| | 01/03/2005 11:54 PM |
| Silver spoon - myth!!! 
It's an old one and has been clinically disproved by a bunch of very pissed up clinical scientists.
It was proven impossible to leave anything in the bottom of a Champagne bottle. | | | |
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Marco
Barrel Filler
Posts:1029
| | 01/04/2005 2:06 AM |
| | Storing Open Champagne? I am unfamiliar with the concept........ | | | |
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cmsyrah
Grape Picker
Posts:0
| | 01/04/2005 6:58 AM |
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My Dad always put a sterling silver ice tea spoon in champagne when all was not consumed. (Horror of it) The theory being that the oxidation of the silver would interact with the co2. It had to an ice tea spoon because of the length of the handle. It had to touch the liquid in order to work.
Now, my Dad is gone and as an adult I know that the bubbles in champagne are caused from dust.
You place a (what is the word?) completely dust free glass in a complete dust free room and pour champagne...uh, oh. No bubbles.
It is the interaction between all three that make us smile and call it "bubbly"
However, I think the new science of it sucks and I want to remember sterling ice tea spoons, the wonder of it all and Dad.
To all you Dads! Great Men. Salud! | | | |
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Rothko
Palm Beach
Wine Thief
Posts:2842
| | 01/04/2005 4:12 PM |
| I was at a dinner on Saturday night and someone mentioned that the bubbles in champagne are caused by dust in the glass. I was skeptical, but he insisted that that had been proven.
But doesn't champagne bubble directly in the bottle? If you open a bottle and set it down, wouldn't you see bubbles rising up from the bottom of the bottle? | | | |
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cmsyrah
Grape Picker
Posts:0
| | 01/04/2005 4:21 PM |
| Quote:
I was at a dinner on Saturday night and someone mentioned that the bubbles in champagne are caused by dust in the glass. I was skeptical, but he insisted that that had been proven.
But doesn't champagne bubble directly in the bottle? If you open a bottle and set it down, wouldn't you see bubbles rising up from the bottom of the bottle?
There was a special on this very issue on one of the news specials right before Christmas. 20/20 or Dateline or such.
Even the most minute amount of dust causes the champagne to bubble. When popping the cork, even the smallest particle of dust that drops in will interact with the Co2 in the champagne causing the bubble effect. A thermo dynamic kind of thing. | | | |
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skwid
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5452
| | 01/04/2005 4:23 PM |
| | The Bubbles are caused by the CO2 in the Champagne. In a glass they flow from the bottom much better if the glass is not smooth. Crystal has imperfections in it (not smooth) while regualr glass is perfectly smooth. Try the following, get a cheap glass Champagne flute (believe it or not the restaurant Tartare uses these so I saw it first hand) and then either a Speigelau or Riedel Champagne flute. Pour Champagne into each of the glasses and watch. The crystal glass will have much more visible flow of bubbles. | | | |
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Rothko
Palm Beach
Wine Thief
Posts:2842
| | 01/04/2005 4:26 PM |
| | So to "charge" a champagne glass, you should sprinkle it with dirt? | | | |
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skwid
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5452
| | 01/04/2005 4:29 PM |
| | That might work. But I'd bet that salt would work better. However if you do this to my glass of Champagne there might be fisticuffs. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:11169
| | 01/04/2005 4:33 PM |
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