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David Walker
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2284
 | | 03/03/2003 6:58 PM |
| A co-worker of mine has a brother who is visting Germany in the near future. He (my co-worker) asked me if I knew of any great Riesling available in Germany that is unavailable in the U.S. Does anyone know of any?
Thanks in advance. | | | |
| Jeremy Matthew
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2067
| | 03/04/2003 12:39 AM |
| I doubt much Franconian wine makes it to the US- not that that is a bad thing. Vino Me told me he had never seen Franconian wines state side (and we know how much he drinks) .
from the Rheinhessen I doubt you would get many of these producers.
Note- I'm only putting down decent producers, the name in brackets is the town where they are based.
Freiherr Heyl zu Herrnsheim (Nierstein)
Gunderloch (Nackenheim)
Kuhling-Gillot (Bodenheim)
Schales (Florseim-Dalheim)-if you do get this producer in the US buy it.
From Nahe
Schlossgut Diel (Burg Layen)
From Mittlerhein
Fritz Bastian (Bacharach)
Ratzenberger (Steeg)
MSR
Geheimrat J.Wegeler Erben (Bernkastel-Kues) If you can get this buy it- outstanding stuff.
Willi Schaefer (Graach)
R&B Knebel (Winningen)
Heymann Lowenstein ( Winningen) | | | |
| GATC
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2420
| | 03/04/2003 11:24 PM |
| Jeremy, good information. This is a question that I have been asking myself since I will be touring the German wine country next week.
I've seen some Wegeler (used to be at the top in the past), Gunderloch, Schaeffer and some of the others in the US, but they are rare. Actually, all of the best 2001 German rieslings are hard to find in the US and are pretty much gone. I have not seen Heymann Lowenstein anywhere and they are considered one of the best by the Wein-Plus society, which has a lot of German riesling fans.
Beth (German Wine Society and Parkerite) said that most of the best 2001 wines were already gone from the estates last fall.
I don't expect to find anything, but just wanted to visit some of my favorite estates. I'll know more in next week. | | | |
| Jeremy Matthew
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2067
| | 03/05/2003 4:24 AM |
| | I think the reviews from the likes of Parker and Wine Spectator have ensured limited supply in the US, here in NZ there are a reasonable number of wines still available. | | | |
| GATC
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2420
| | 03/06/2003 12:57 AM |
| I spoke too soon. I noticed that K&L just started to offer some of those wines. The Heymann-Lowenstein appears to be an estate riesling (the lowest level) and they want $27.99 for it - unbelievable.
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| GATC
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2420
| | 03/18/2003 11:25 PM |
| | Having spent the last week in the German wine country, I can say that any good 2001's are all gone. If you find a little wine shop or winebar, you may have a chance, but that is it. If your friend goes to the Mosel, go to the St. Stephanus Hotel in Zeltingen, near Bernkastel-Kues and go to the winebar in the basement. I left a few Dr. Loosen Erdener Treppchen auslese that I regret not getting (I lugged 16 bottles as it was). The cost is 22e, about 1/2 of the price in the US. There are also a few other goodies, but I bought all of the Selbach-Oster and Monchhof that they had. | | | |
| David Walker
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2284
| | 03/19/2003 1:28 PM |
| Thanks for the info, GATC! I'll pass it along to him, but doubt he'll make the effort to seek out the treasures. | | | |
| Carl
Grape Fermenter
Posts:462
| | 07/12/2003 4:15 AM |
| | I realize I am late at coming to this, but for future reference, the lower-end/drier wines (QbAs and Kabinetts) of top producers are available in any large branch of the department store Karstadt. I have been to the one in Frankfurt many times, also Nürnberg...selection was similar. They carry Dr. Loosen, Gunderloch, Robert Weil, Selbach-Oster, Burklin-Wolf, and a range of others. Most QbAs are EUR 7.50 or so. Another chain, Galleria Kaufhof, sells wine too, although not as wide a selection. The point is, if you are in a large city (500,000+) don't forget to check the department stores especially if they have a supermarket. Incidentally you might pick up some good Bordeaux bargains. Both stores order futures in the first tranche, and seem to fix their prices off the price they paid rather than the going market price. Too bad the euro is strong. | | | |
| ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts:4877
| | 07/13/2003 4:06 AM |
| | cbmac-good info, but a little bit of a long road trip for me, although for stemor this would just be a saturday drive. | | | |
| stemor
Collierville, TN
Wine Thief
Posts:2810
| | 07/13/2003 4:13 AM |
| ojeffso,
Roadtrip?  | |
Cheers, y'all | |
| GATC
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2420
| | 07/13/2003 7:21 AM |
| | Thanks cbmac, I'll keep that in mind. Seemed like most of the stores that carried wine in Germany had mainly trockens and halb trockens. | | | |
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