ChangeMe
Grape Destemmer
Posts:74
 | | 10/25/2004 5:16 AM |
| As a Canadian in Ontario I was wondering if any of you south of the border would be able to provide me with a bit of advice...?
Its so frustrating to read the stuff on this site re. Califarnia and Oregon wines that we simply have no access to here in Onatrio as we are at the mercy of a single buyer that has complete brand power.
Is there any way that we can get US wines shipped to Canada from the mailers? Or from wine stores in various states? | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts:3214
| | 10/26/2004 2:56 PM |
| As a fellow Canadian, I'll basically tell you that no you can't. You might be able to have it shipped to a border state and pick it up there, but you'll still have to declare it and pay duty. Another problem - Michigan and New York are not reciprocal states, and therefore you can't have the wine shipped there.
I don't know of any bonded shippers that will handle alcohol due to the LCBO and their policies. You could have the LCBO do special ordering for you, but it's ridiculously expensive and you'd have to sacrifice a bottle for lab testing. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Destemmer
Posts:74
| | 10/26/2004 3:22 PM |
| Yep...
I think the lab costs are a flat 160.00 for a P/o which renders the whole thing pretty moot... Don't you share the whole frustration on not being able to get access to some of the stuff that posters are discussing here? I guess some of it is periodically availble through the LCBO CC but thats a crapshoot anyway... | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13627
| | 10/27/2004 2:51 AM |
| LAB TESTING????????!!!!!!!?!?!!!!!?!!
WTF???? | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Destemmer
Posts:74
| | 10/27/2004 3:20 AM |
| All wine that comes into Ontario is subject to some sort of lab testing to ensure quality and all that stuff. All done by the centralised liquor board...
Yep, its true... | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts:398
| | 10/27/2004 4:34 AM |
| TJ
when my fellow posters from ontario and i were children(i think we're all around 25-30) our parents would walk into the liquor stores, write down their order on a perscription and a person would disappear into the back to fetch their bottle. Much like a pharmacy or breadline!
the MotherPhu**ing LCBO has not come a long way except maybe in appearance. | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11814
| | 10/27/2004 9:10 AM |
| Jump... Take your post, change LCBO to PLCB (Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board), and you have my situation!!! Until about 12-15 years ago, most liquor stores in PA had a counter, a clerk, and a book with everything PA offered. You had to ask for what you wanted, and they went into the back to get it. You never saw any bottles in the front of the 'shop'.
PS: The clerks were prohibited from making any suggestions, even when solicited by the customer.  | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:12891
| | 10/29/2004 12:57 AM |
| bud is 100% correct, even though he might actually remember prohibition as well  | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11814
| | 10/29/2004 9:20 AM |
| Sorry. You're mistaking me for Board-O.   | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:12891
| | 10/29/2004 2:52 PM |
| same difference   | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts:349
| | 10/29/2004 3:29 PM |
| So what happens if one relocates from, say NJ, to Canada? Do we get to carry our wine collection or do we need to declare it, give a few bottles for lab tests, and pay duty?
If the answer to the above question is - duh, yes - I will stop talking to the Canadian recruiters right now.
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts:3214
| | 10/29/2004 4:03 PM |
| If you're relocating to Canada, you can take your wine with you and not be dinged duty. I believe the limit is 1,000 or 1,500 bottles without duty. Your best bet would be to talk to customs about the special relocation exemption. If they say "we don't know what you're talking about," let me know and I'll get you the documentation and law # that states you can.
The lab testing is only for wine to be sold in the country. Since private ordering is required for anything not already in the system through the LCBO or import agents, that's when testing is required.
A pretty steep fee if you ask me - what if you're trying to bring in a three-pack of Screaming Eagle for example? $160 lab fee, freight fee, plus sacrificing a bottle to the lab. What's that $500 more?
The system here really, really sucks sometimes. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Destemmer
Posts:74
| | 10/29/2004 4:32 PM |
| I think the lab fee is a flat 160 for the whole order. And only for that which is considered for commercial purposes.
I think you can bring 1.5 l's for every 72 hours you spend in the states. or of course you can roll the dice at customs... | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13627
| | 10/31/2004 2:07 AM |
| Quote:
TJ
when my fellow posters from ontario and i were children(i think we're all around 25-30) our parents would walk into the liquor stores, write down their order on a perscription and a person would disappear into the back to fetch their bottle. Much like a pharmacy or breadline!
the MotherPhu**ing LCBO has not come a long way except maybe in appearance.
Lunacy!
It is just wine after all. You'd think somebody was selling rattlesnake medecine or something.
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:12891
| | 10/31/2004 7:27 AM |
| | i know tj, its not like people are trying to buy crack. oh i'm sorry that is probably easier to get in canada and pa then limited production wines | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts:398
| | 10/31/2004 11:58 PM |
| | i don't know about crack but you can walk down the street past a cop with a joint in your mouth without any fear. the LCBO, jesus, you could write for days on the lunacy and hypocracy of this organization. | | | |
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