Randy Wigginton
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5359
 | | 07/30/2004 7:37 PM |
| I re-read it, and still stand by what I said. For you, the issue is black and white. For me, and others, it is not nearly so clear. If I smell a wine and say, "wow, something is wrong with this", I cannot immediately determine if its brett, TCA, or just crappy wine.
All I am saying is that for many of us that are not as blessed/cursed as you, the presence of TCA may not leap out of the glass. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Stomper
Posts:152
| | 08/03/2004 11:00 AM |
| Doch, TJ!
Four!? Wait - don't tell me, you can't stand Sauvignon Blanc, right? WIth all the cat's pee?  | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13627
| | 08/03/2004 1:04 PM |
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Doch, TJ!
Four!? Wait - don't tell me, you can't stand Sauvignon Blanc, right? WIth all the cat's pee?
Markus, heh heh heh. I never did get the whole 'cat's pee' thing some people get from SBs. Then again, I have never tasted cat's pee, but other folks seem to have indulged in the experience.   | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Stomper
Posts:152
| | 08/04/2004 1:31 PM |
| Tell me about it, TJ!
I haven't gotten the cat's pee thing either, but then, I don't have a cat. I once "baby sat" a kitten, though, which decided to hide under my bed where it relieved itself.
The smell was asphyxiating, and didn't bring SB to my mind, at least. | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15701
| | 08/04/2004 5:28 PM |
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Doch, TJ!
Four!? Wait - don't tell me, you can't stand Sauvignon Blanc, right? WIth all the cat's pee?
Markus, heh heh heh. I never did get the whole 'cat's pee' thing some people get from SBs. Then again, I have never tasted cat's pee, but other folks seem to have indulged in the experience.
It doesn't taste like cat's pee. I SMELLS like cat's pee.
You should be pretty easy to get to smell cat's pee. If not dog pee should be accesable. It smells pretty much the same as cat's pee depending on the size of the dog. A smaller dog would be closest to Sauvignon Blanc. A larger dog's pee is sometimes an aroma in Petite Sirah. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Puncher
Posts:986
| | 08/05/2004 11:36 AM |
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I SMELLS like cat's pee.
I guess we had better stay away from davidn.   | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts:13627
| | 08/05/2004 1:09 PM |
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It doesn't taste like cat's pee. I SMELLS like cat's pee.
So, you've tasted cat's pee (since you know it doesn't taste like it), but it smells like it, so, um, you have a cat pee smelling fetish?
I'm just kidding with ya, Pops!!!!  | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:11872
| | 08/05/2004 1:19 PM |
| | We have three cats so I know what cat pee smells like and I can definitely attest to the fact that David does NOT smell like cat pee. | |
Joe
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Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15701
| | 08/06/2004 4:57 AM |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11814
| | 08/06/2004 9:07 AM |
| | wiml... if not cat pee, what DOES he smell like??? | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:11872
| | 08/06/2004 1:00 PM |
| Need you ask?
d'Yquem! | |
Joe
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Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11814
| | 08/06/2004 2:12 PM |
| | Joe... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15701
| | 08/06/2004 11:42 PM |
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BTW, there can be a little cat pee in Yquem too. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:11872
| | 08/06/2004 11:53 PM |
| | Understood. But if you wait about 20 years it tends to disapate. | |
Joe
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Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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winodyno
Grape Stomper
Posts:150
| | 11/11/2004 4:56 AM |
| This question seems related to this topic so I'm just going to add this on to the thread.
I'm not very good at identifying if a wine is corked (and I'm not that sensitive to TCA) so I was wondering what your thoughts were. I just opened a 2002 Saintsbury Garnet Pinot Noir and had the following impression: Nose was very muted - had to really concentrate to detect any fruit. The palate was worse - no flavor and there was this weird sour taste. I've never had this wine before but this doesn't sound like any of the TNs that I read about it. So is this corked or just a wine with a strange flavor profile?
Thanks! | | | |
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Randy Sloan
St. Helena
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2031
| | 11/11/2004 2:29 PM |
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So is this corked or just a wine with a strange flavor profile?
Although TCA-tainted (corked) wines with lower contamination levels are sometimes described as having hidden or muted fruit, I've never seen them described as "sour". TCA smells like wet cardboard or old swimming pool water -- moldy.
It sounds more just like an off bottle, perhaps cooked in a hot truck. Give it 69 points and move on. That's what we're all doing now. | |
Randy Sloan
Match Vineyards | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:11872
| | 11/11/2004 2:38 PM |
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Give it 69 points and move on. That's what we're all doing now.
lol. So we're all taking tasting tips from that goober? | |
Joe
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts:4877
| | 11/11/2004 5:06 PM |
| | sour cherries is a flavor profile you can get from pinot noir. | | | |
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winodyno
Grape Stomper
Posts:150
| | 11/12/2004 1:01 AM |
| | Thanks for the responses everyone! I guess its not a clear-cut case of taint but at least this happened with a cheap and relatively easy to replace bottle. | | | |
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