ChangeMe 
Grape Picker
Posts: 22
 | | 04-12-2004 12:53 AM |
| Hello All ! I found this forum in a search for information about a bottle of wine I just tried and fell in love with... Bernardus 1998 Vintage Select Cabernet. I have read that it's a declassified Marinus which I am guessing means it was not as good. I think it's an amazing bottle of wine.
Anyway, my wife and I enjoy dry reds in particular with a leaning towards Italian reds, Piedmonts especially. Barolo is my fave, hence the forum name.
I hope to learn a bunch here from you all! | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 04-12-2004 12:55 AM |
| welcome to our happy little fun house BaroloLUVR. | | | |
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Budman
Philly Suburbs
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts: 13785
| | 04-12-2004 01:11 AM |
| Barolo-dude-- Welcome. We are the Three Wise Men, Ant, Bud and I. Just kidding. We are really just The Three Muchachos. Aside from my mandatory request that you hang out here and post often, I have but one request... Please DON'T tell me about Barolo or I will have to subpeona you when I hit bankruptcy court for falling for another wine/varietal....  |
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stemor
Collierville, TN
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5573
| | 04-12-2004 02:02 AM |
| Welcome aboard, BaroloLUVR! As for the Bernardus Cab, I see that it's available for $11.94/bottle from HiTimes Wines, located here. This wine (when it's labelled as Marinus) is usually in the $40/bottle range and gets scores in the mid-high 80s from Wine Spectator. Since this wine is listed as "declassified Marinus", I have to assume that it's below their usual quality ... and many might argue that, even at ~$12/bottle, it still isn't worth drinking. There are so many other bottles of better wine in the same price range! | | | Cheers, y'all | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts: 22
| | 04-12-2004 02:13 AM |
| Quote:
Welcome aboard, BaroloLUVR!
As for the Bernardus Cab, I see that it's available for $11.94/bottle from HiTimes Wines, locatedhere.
This wine (when it's labelled as Marinus) is usually in the $40/bottle range and gets scores in the mid-high 80s from Wine Spectator. Since this wine is listed as "declassified Marinus", I have to assume that it's below their usual quality ... and many might argue that, even at ~$12/bottle, it still isn't worth drinking. There are so many other bottles of better wine in the same price range!
Thanks for the welcome all!
I gotta tell you, this Bernardus Cab was so good I could not believe it. I paid 14 bucks for it (Ohio state minimum) and am probably going to buy a lot more. It was very big; the texture was silky and the finish was great. I was able to get 2 more bottles locally and if they are as good I am going to hop all over what I can find. For that price I'll accept the declassification. I will have to try the 97 Marinus next, that should be amazing (I hope for the price diff!) | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12537
| | 04-12-2004 02:31 AM |
| Howdy BaroloLUVR | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30915
| | 04-12-2004 04:21 AM |
| Welcome BarolaLUVR,
The vineyard where the Marinusis grown is just above Carmel Valley in the Monterey ava. In 1998 there was a huge forest fire in the Big Sur area which is just south and west of this vineyard. The vineyard is right in the path of the prevailing winds comeing from the fire. The vineyard was blocked from all sunlight for over two weeks right in the middle of the growing season by smoke and ash. That is why it was decalssified.
The Marinus '99 and '00 are only fair vintages. In October the 2001 vintage is being released. I have tasted this wine. IMO it is glorious with a much larger % or Cabernet than any Marinus before. If you want to spend $40 on a wine I would suggest you buy one of these and compare your tasting notes you have on the 1998. | | | |
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Al HooKoo
Las Vegas, NV
Wine Thief
Posts: 2627
| | 04-12-2004 02:42 PM |
| Welcome BarolaLUVR,
I for one hope to learn from you. I am starting to educate myself on Italian wines. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1907
| | 04-12-2004 06:50 PM |
| Welcome BarolaLUVR!! | | | |
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Tom
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2384
| | 04-12-2004 06:53 PM |
| Welcome.
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kpak
Alaska
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3134
| | 04-12-2004 07:30 PM |
| Adding my greetings. | | | In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is...
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wino4ever
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 578
| | 04-13-2004 07:14 PM |
| Don't just learn but teach as well.  welcome aboard. (get it? - board - you know message boards - the whole pun thing?) okay i'll stop now. | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 04-15-2004 01:20 PM |
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Please DON'T tell me about Barolo or I will have to subpeona you when I hit bankruptcy court for falling for another wine/varietal....
C'mon TJ ... you know Barolo is good stuff. Barbaresco too. 
Welcome to the site BL. | | | |
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KillerB
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1533
| | 04-16-2004 11:58 AM |
| welcome aboard - I'm quite fond of Italian stuff myself but I tend to stck to certain wines or I'll be living in a box (sharing it with the wines, of course).
When you say Ohio State Minimum - is there a minimum price for a bottle of wine there or something? If it's $14 that's a lot of cash for crappy wine. Your declassified one sounds a bargain but imagine $14 for Blue Nun! Fourteen Buck Chuck? Please explain. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts: 22
| | 04-17-2004 12:37 AM |
| Quote:
welcome aboard - I'm quite fond of Italian stuff myself but I tend to stck to certain wines or I'll be living in a box (sharing it with the wines, of course).
When you say Ohio State Minimum - is there a minimum price for a bottle of wine there or something? If it's $14 that's a lot of cash for crappy wine. Your declassified one sounds a bargain but imagine $14 for Blue Nun! Fourteen Buck Chuck? Please explain.
It means the state controls how low than can go on price for all liquor, beer and wine sales. Let's say a salesman was to offer a free case for every 10 the wineshop buys, they couldn't use that to drop the price of all the bottles. They can have no blowout loss leader type sales, the state govt. must get all the taxes they can. | | | |
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stemor
Collierville, TN
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5573
| | 04-18-2004 03:07 PM |
| By the way, BaroloLUVR, do you mind mentioning where in Ohio you are?
We've got some a lot of folks with Ohio connections -- if not addresses -- here on the site. I lived in the Columbus suburbs for only four years, but still have many friends and fond memories there, and still consider it a home-away-from-home. | | | Cheers, y'all | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts: 13785
| | 04-18-2004 10:28 PM |
| Quote:
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Please DON'T tell me about Barolo or I will have to subpeona you when I hit bankruptcy court for falling for another wine/varietal....
C'mon TJ ... you know Barolo is good stuff. Barbaresco too.
Welcome to the site BL.
That is preCISEly my point, fut. I'll dig the wines big time and then go broke trying to buy them. | | | www.roguefood.com -- www.cellartracker.com | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Picker
Posts: 22
| | 04-19-2004 12:38 AM |
| Quote:
By the way, BaroloLUVR, do you mind mentioning where in Ohio you are?
We've got some a lot of folks with Ohio connections -- if not addresses -- here on the site. I lived in the Columbus suburbs for only four years, but still have many friends and fond memories there, and still consider it a home-away-from-home.
I live in the Reynoldsburg area and am building a new home in Pickerington. At some point I am going to be building a wine room as well as a walk in humidor in my basement. I am really getting into the cigar/wine/scotch/bourbon thing in the last 5 years. I wish my wallet would let me get into it more but all good things come in time. | | | |
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stemor
Collierville, TN
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5573
| | 04-19-2004 02:25 AM |
| Good to have another Central Ohio (translation for others: "Columbus area") wine-o aboard. I worked my way through a degree at OU's campus in Lancaster -- and had customers in Gahanna -- while I lived in Worthington, so I know your area well.
Pay close attention to some of the Forumites ... you'll find many folks with Buckeye roots. I hope you'll stick around and enjoy! | | | Cheers, y'all | |
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