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Red Wine and Cheese Incompatible...?
Last Post 01-24-2006 06:06 PM byDavid Niederauer. 13 Replies.
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01-21-2006 04:02 AM  
I don't entirely agree, but so says a newstudy conducted at UC Davis... Would be interesting to read the entire study (to be published in March).
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01-21-2006 05:24 AM  
Take a look atthis thread.

"What cheeses with high-end '01 Cali Cabs? "
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01-21-2006 06:17 AM  
You beat me to it!! Though I'm no cheese expert, I think the validity of these conclusions depend quite a bit on the exact wine/cheese pairing. We've been going through a decent amount of brouere recently, which pairs quite well imo with many of the reds we drink.
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01-21-2006 12:59 PM  
I think it's important to select the cheese based on the wine you'll be having with it. I don't like the fattier, creamier cheeses with Pinot Noir, but instaed love the pairing with goat cheese. The more tannin in the wine, the creamier and fattier I like the cheese.
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01-23-2006 04:00 PM  
how do you classify bleu cheese? funny, i never think creamy and fatty when i have it. plus, i always have it with red wine. hadn't thought to pair it with a white.
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01-23-2006 06:31 PM  
IMO blue cheese is one of the "worst" in that not only does it coat the tounge it also has huge flavors.
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01-23-2006 07:24 PM  
Agree completely. Imo, bleu cheese should not be served with unfortified dry wines.
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01-23-2006 07:26 PM  
ok, so what do you serve it with. port or say a riesling.

and does it fall into your creamy or fatty category?
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01-23-2006 07:30 PM  
I don't serve it with anything. Bleu cheese doesn't make an appearance at our wine dinners. Neither do Buffalo wings or Sechuan food. When we host a wine dinner, I search for optimal pairings. I certainly don't always succeed, but I see no reason to try to match overpowering foods with wine.

If one must pair a wine with bleu cheese, my recommended pairing would be Port.
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01-23-2006 07:37 PM  
If I were choosing to serve almost any cheese at the end of a meal the only thing that I would pair it with is a fortified wine like Port, Banyuls, Tokai or Muscadelle.
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01-23-2006 10:10 PM  
Dang dudes ........ I love Stilton and a big fruity Zin!

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01-24-2006 02:27 PM  
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Agree completely. Imo, bleu cheese should not be served with unfortified dry wines.




I tend to avoid Bleus as well for any dinner or hang out with wine. I just find the flavors too strong for any wine. But I disagree with Pops. If we do a cheese course at the end of a dinner we host, it is usually for an 'Extendo-Dinner' and there is a break after the main courses to go hang out and have some cheese and then eventually back to get the dessert. Some good cheese and some good wine can be great.
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01-24-2006 02:31 PM  
Virtually all of our wine dinners have a cheese course between the main course and the dessert. Wines and cheeses are carefully chosen to complement each other.
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01-24-2006 06:06 PM  
Did I say somewhere that I don't do cheese courses? If I did I certainly didn't mean to.

A meal without cheese
is like a kiss without squeeze
I must have my cheese


Most of the dinners I plan have a fromage tray served along with bread and butter (I usually don't do fruit). Part of the French Paradox is to eat one's cheese on a buttered piece of French bread.

What I did say is that I would not serve a dry wine or even a sweet wine with the cheese. In order to compliment the cheese it should be a fortified wine.

Supposidly one of the "dream pairings" with Chateau d'Yquem is an old Roquefort cheese. Doing this is a complete waste of the Sauternes imo. It should be against the law!
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