love_cab_chard  
Master of Wine
Posts: 12605
 | | 04-24-2004 01:49 AM |
| Who is going to watch the Iron Chef vs Mario, Puck, & Bobby? It should be fun. My wife is psyched. | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5168
| | 04-24-2004 02:27 AM |
| | They are going to run all of the shows in succession on Sunday/Monday night from midnight to 4:00 a.m.. My VCR is set. | | | Beta testing a new signature. | |
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love_cab_chard
Master of Wine
Posts: 12605
| | 04-24-2004 03:01 AM |
| | Bobby Flay just won round 1 against the main guy (dont' ask me for his name). Although, my wife & I thought that the Iron Chef should have won. Both had very interesting, original, & amazing dishes to die for. | | | |
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rmkam
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 524
| | 04-24-2004 03:10 PM |
| | Great entertainment and what talent these chefs have. | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 04-24-2004 03:12 PM |
| My dish went down so I missed this.  Damn you DirecTV! I've been looking forward to watching it for a month now.
Maybe they'll show it on Canadian TV soon. | | | |
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kpak
Alaska
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3031
| | 04-24-2004 04:32 PM |
| | Great show. Both chefs had incredibly creative and inspiring dishes. I gained new respect for Bobby Flay last night. And Iron Chef Sakai is truly an artist with the knife! | | | In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is
.ps - friends don't let friends eat farmed salmon. | |
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Sascha
Grape Sorter
Posts: 235
| | 04-24-2004 05:09 PM |
| I think we'll be watching tonight and tomorrow!
I'm definitely ready!
Sascha Illyvich | | | |
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Sascha
Grape Sorter
Posts: 235
| | 04-24-2004 05:11 PM |
| I've talked to some of the Chefs at CCA and they highly dislike BObby Flay for his lack of technique, his uncleanliness and his unprofessionalism as a chef. Morimoto had a right to be pissed about Flay standing on the cutting board, I felt.
Now Wolfgang Puck...that should be worth watching. I don't know who I'll be rooting for on that battle.
Sascha Illyvich | | | |
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Fred
Wine Thief
Posts: 2673
| | 04-26-2004 01:04 PM |
| | These were fun to watch. Wolfgang was the most composed of all the chefs I thought. Bobby Flay annoys me for some reason. Great looking food, but in some instances Alton Brown stole the show he's hilarious and a great announcer. | | | "It's better to have your enemies inside the tent pissing out, then outside the tent pissing in." -- Lyndon Johnson | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts: 13767
| | 04-26-2004 05:10 PM |
| Sakai should have won the first battle, Batali won the 2nd and I agreed with that (but it was sooooo close). Puck won the third, but I tend to credit his sous chef/pastry chef -- I think she stole Wolfy's thunder there a bit. I haven't watched the tag team yet, though. That was probably interesting.
Bobby Flay annoys the hell out of me. I call him Bobby Clay. | | | www.roguefood.com -- www.cellartracker.com | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 04-26-2004 06:10 PM |
| Or if you stick to the pronunciation by the Chairman, "Brobbry Fray!"
lol. Sorry, couldn't help it.
And I'm still ticked that I wasn't able to watch these shows. | | | |
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Corkage
Grape Puncher
Posts: 975
| | 04-26-2004 07:36 PM |
| | I like Bobby Flay, although I didn't like a few years ago when I thought he really came off as arrogant. I think he's toned it down a bit. He cooks like an American Cowboy: arrogant, confident and shooting from the hip. And I like that. Heck, that's the way others from around the world perceive us Americans, I think the FoodTV network knows it too. | | | |
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dinwiddie
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2194
| | 04-26-2004 07:53 PM |
| While I don't particularly like Bobby Flay's personality as it comes across on the shows, the man can cook and the food he made during the competitions was inventive, beautifully presented, and he won, both individually and as a team. I was suprised by how much they beat Mario and Saki, but they sure did have a great looking set of dishs.
As much as I hate watching him, I find myself doing so just to watch what he makes. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1475
| | 04-26-2004 11:43 PM |
| If you like grill cooking, I think Steven Raichlen has better cookbooks and a better tv show ( its on PBS) than Bobby Flay. He may not have the personality, but he really shows you how to cook with the grill.
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ChangeMe
Grape Puncher
Posts: 986
| | 04-27-2004 11:13 AM |
| Puck kicked Morimoto's butt. Indeed he had a distinct advantage with his pastry chef alongside, but Morimoto misread his audience & did not effectively use the theme ingredient. He really did use it as a side item, not the focus.
In reality this is just the reverse of the old show where US/European chefs would get their butts kicked by doing American/European food styles for Japanese judges. You've got to know your audience.
And I do agree that Sakai got robbed. | | | |
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Winetex
Austin, Texas
Master of Wine
Posts: 11048
| | 04-28-2004 02:01 AM |
| Can't wait to watch these. Thank goodness for TIVO. We were able to program these to record from the Internet while we on vacation. | | | |
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Sascha
Grape Sorter
Posts: 235
| | 04-28-2004 05:49 PM |
| I can't wait to see them all the way through, even though I know the results. I don't value Flay as a chef mostly because he's so arrogant. What I saw of him in Kitchen Stadium was't too bad, but the guy did step on a cutting board, which is highly unprofessional.
Good fun.
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DJ Hombre
Napa Valley, California
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1367
| | 04-29-2004 08:12 AM |
| Both Flay and Sakai had their good and bad points in their matchup.
The 2 biggest downsides w/ Flay was the fact that he used guacamole in 2 seperate dishes as well as the presentation w/ the skillet dish. That was just ugly.
Sakai's problem was that he made his dishes a bit over the top... and one of the dishes you had to tell the people how to eat it... as well as using inedible garnishes. I ain't down with either.
Also, his country style soup probably definatly cost him points as the presentation was very monotone in color and not exactly appetizing looking.
Whereas Sakai went just a little bit over the top... Morimoto decided to try to become Superman and leap tall buildings in a single bound. Here's a guy who has to be new. Whatever he does has to be totally unique... and that definatly hurts him as what he does probably needs to be reigned in. I do give him mad props though for his ingenuity. | | | |
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Winetex
Austin, Texas
Master of Wine
Posts: 11048
| | 05-03-2004 11:59 PM |
| We've watched the Flay vs. Sakai and the Batali vs. Morimoto episodes. The winners are winning because the judges are American. If they were Japanese judges I think the Japanese Iron Chefs would win because they would be more familiar with the ingredients the Japanese chefs were using.
Flay vs. Sakai - Focus ingredient - Trout. This one was close. Flay did seem to be toning it down. I missed him climbing on the cutting board. Truly disgusting - the trout ice cream. Gag.
Batali vs. Morimoto - Focus ingredient - spiny lobster the size of footballs. I thought Morimoto might win because of the sheer originality of his dishes and beautiful presentation. Until you saw the scorecard - they were close on plating and presentation but on taste Batali was way ahead. For the American judges (2 actors and a chef) it meant that although the food looked good it just didn't taste as good or they could not relate to some of the Asian ingredients.
I watch these for the knife work and think about how I would be cutting off my hand if I had the knives that they use. Fun shows. | | | |
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JonesWineNo1
Sommelier
Posts: 8568
| | 05-04-2004 12:21 AM |
| | They are fun shows. I thought Puck clearly bested Morimoto as did Flay (I'm not his biggest fan but the competition was not even close imo). I was surprised that Sakai/Battali were beat by such a big margin. | | | |
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