futronic 
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
 | | 03-21-2005 05:48 AM |
| Agilianico di Taurasi from Campania.
Dark, black, inky, colour. Opaque. Aromas of vanilla, blackcurrant, blackberry, blueberry, flowers. Full-bodied, tannic, with blackberry, raspberry, vanilla. Moderate-long finish, 35-40s, with black fruit. 91 points (03/12/2005). | | |
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Winetex
Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
Master of Wine
Posts: 11293
| | 05-25-2005 12:44 PM |
| - 2001 Feudi di San Gregorio Serpico Irpinia IGT - Italy, Campania, Irpinia IGT (5/24/2005)
Dark, inky purple in color. Made from the Aglianico grape it is one of the darkest wines I've ever seen. Mr. Winetex guessed it blind as Charbono and it did taste very similar to some Charbonos we've had. It was quite different from Charbono in terms of texture as this had a velvety mouthfeel with lots of dark fruit. After the decant there was a kirsch flavor along with a spicyness from the oak. It was slightly out of balance with strong acids and tannins but I'm going to bet that this resolves with some aging. Quite good wine that was very good with food. [~$50 on release; Decanted one hour and needed every minute; Our next bottle scheduled for 2007] (92 pts.)
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12534
| | 05-25-2005 01:11 PM |
| Hmmm...curious. I take it that neither of you futronic and Winetex think this is as good as both Wine Advocate (98 pts) and Wine Spectator (94 pts) think it is. Could each of you comment on whether this could be attributed to the youthfulness of the wine, style of the wine or is it simply not that good? Upside potential here? | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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Winetex
Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
Master of Wine
Posts: 11293
| | 05-25-2005 06:41 PM |
| There is probably upside potential with the wine. That said although it is complex the complexity seems muted to me. It was as if the character of the wine was just out of reach (I know a weird thought but...).
Maybe the pro reviewers at the WA (not Parker but D. Thomases) and the WS know more about the varietal therefore they may be better able to express its potential. Tanzer did not review the 2001 but in previous vintages noted that that the wines would benefit from 2-3 years additional aging. | | | |
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JonesWineNo1
Sommelier
Posts: 8568
| | 05-25-2005 06:44 PM |
| More like a decade imo. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12534
| | 05-25-2005 07:00 PM |
| Thanks for the additional comments Winetex.
LOL JWN1. Funny you should say that. I have my first bottle scheduled to be opened in 2011. | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 05-27-2005 02:57 AM |
| i bought a 6 pack based on winebrat's reccos and tucked away not to see the light of day for long time. i am not a huge italian wine fan but for the price i figured it was worth the gamble. | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 05-27-2005 04:20 AM |
| Good Aglianico is like Nebbiolo - it needs time in the cellar. Patience will be rewarded. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 05-28-2005 01:27 AM |
| jay,
what year should i set the 1st of my 6 for? | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 05-28-2005 03:33 PM |
| I think Joe's pretty much on the money. If you've got six, I see no harm in opening one in 2009-2010 and checking the evolution. Re-evaluate the wine at that point and go from there. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 05-28-2005 05:21 PM |
| thank you very much  | | | |
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pizinah
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1313
| | 07-28-2005 04:37 AM |
| I've now opened bottles from 3 different retail sources and all were sour, weedy and vegetal almost to the point of being undrinkable... Those of you who haven't tasted this and are cellaring multiple bottles based on the reviews/points might want to give it a try... | | | |
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Landshark
Wine Labeler
Posts: 3724
| | 07-28-2005 03:38 PM |
| which retailers, I opened one of mine and it seemed fine | | | |
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Bradley Molzen
VinoCellar.com Admin
Bayonne, NJ
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5080
| | 07-28-2005 03:45 PM |
| I had one of mine, and one of someone else's, both were fine.
Decant for a good 12 hours tho.... :-) | | | If you drink wine, you get smarter.... | |
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pizinah
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1313
| | 07-28-2005 04:49 PM |
| The most recent bottle was from Costco in Marina del Rey. The earlier two, IIRC, were from Woodland Hills and Winex. All of the bottles were decanted, but none longer than 1-2 hours, so maybe it would improve with more air. I have much less experience with Italian wine than wine from California, Australia and Bordeaux, so maybe it's just an aromatic and flavor profile too far afield of anything I'm used to (or found enjoyable). If that's true, however, others may be in for a disappointment as there seem to be a lot of us who bought '01 Serpico based on the reviews/points whose cellars are otherwise full of Pavie, Insignia, Integrity, etc. For those in my boat who have multiple bottles of the Serpico, I'd still recommend cracking one now and seeing if it seems like something that could evolve into an attractive wine. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 07-28-2005 06:51 PM |
| i guess i might have to pop one to see what is what. i am sitting a 1/2 dozen. i'll be honest i bought it on the tn and score. price seemed right and i was hoping to be wowed. | | | |
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JonesWineNo1
Sommelier
Posts: 8568
| | 07-28-2005 07:04 PM |
| The wine should be enjoyable with only an hour or two of air. I would think that you just don't like new wave Aglianico but your description does not match the wine. It should present like a gargantuan slightly rustic powerhouse. Perhaps you have just been abnormally unlucky. | | | |
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pizinah
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1313
| | 07-28-2005 07:39 PM |
| You could be right, perhaps it just isn't my style (as the same has been influenced by drinking a lot of CA, Aussie and Bordeaux wine over the last few years), and admittedly I don't have much experience with Aglianico. But it's been sour, weedy and vegetal each time I've tried it. Like Anthony and no doubt many others, I decided to give it a try not only b/c of the price and WA98 pts, but also b/c of the WA (Thomases) tasting notes which describe the wine as "staggeringly rich...offers ultra-ripe but perfectly fresh berry fruit...cinnamon, chocolate...infinitely deep and long..." Sounded like a wine I'd like, and the price wasn't bad. Unfortunately none of the bottles I've tried even remotely resembled Thomases notes... | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 07-28-2005 09:42 PM |
| yes pizinah, the write up sounded like if i drank it i would creammyjeans. i really hope i like this wine, if not i am sure i can move it for at least what i paid for it. | | | |
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pizinah
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1313
| | 07-29-2005 01:42 AM |
| Quote:
yes pizinah, the write up sounded like if i drank it i would creammyjeans.
Me too! In any event, as you point out, this isn't a big deal given the huge WA score because when you get around to trying it you'll either love the Serpico and be a happy camper or, if not, you'll be able to unload it for at least what you paid. No biggie. I was just a little surprised and disappointed. | | | |
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