Winetex
Austin, Texas
Master of Wine
Posts:10751
 | | 07/09/2005 11:08 PM |
| Proving yet again that many of the Texas winemakers aren't growing the right grapes nor making decent wines.
- 2002 Fall Creek Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo Cuvee - USA, Texas (7/9/2005)
Somewhat recognizable as cab. A waste of calories. (75 pts.)
- 2000 Messina Hof Papa Paulo Port Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo Cuvee - USA, Texas (7/9/2005)
More weird synthetic aromas. It is very light for a Port-styled wine but the flavors aren't terrible. But the smell! AWOC (a waste of calories). (70 pts.)
- 2001 Messina Hof Papa Paulo Port Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo Cuvee - USA, Texas (7/9/2005)
Couldn't get past the weird, synthetic aromas. AWOC (a waste of calories). (70 pts.)
- 2000 Messina Hof Cabernet-Merlot Paulo - USA, Texas (7/9/2005)
Egads this was foul. A misguided gift that was taking up space. Bugspray aromas and non-identifiable varietals. (50 pts.)
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:11169
| | 07/09/2005 11:16 PM |
| | Sounds like livestock stuff. I sympathize with you. I really want to like NY wines, and some of ours seem a little better than what you described, but still not worth buying. I envy those VC people who live in areas where good wine is made. | | | |
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DukeRiley
McMinnville, OR
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Posts:1995
| | 07/09/2005 11:17 PM |
| With "Livestock Show and Rodeo Cuvee" in the name, you'd expect a little barnyard...   | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12211
| | 07/09/2005 11:22 PM |
| One thing to remember Board-O is there are no tougher graders of Texas wines than serious Texas oenophiles like Winetex and myself. It's not that we don't want Texas wines to succeed. She hit the nail on the head. They produce the wrong wines IMO.
BTW...there are streaks of brillance every now and again. Witness the 99 Becker Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve. A good wine in its' own right. | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:11169
| | 07/09/2005 11:31 PM |
| | I'm very aware of that. I feel the same way about NY wines. I keep trying them. | | | |
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BellaDonna
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Posts:1890
| | 07/09/2005 11:33 PM |
| Quote:
One thing to remember Board-O is there are no tougher graders of Texas wines than serious Texas oenophiles like Winetex and myself. It's not that we don't want Texas wines to succeed. She hit the nail on the head. They produce the wrong wines IMO.
What wines should Texas produce then? | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12211
| | 07/10/2005 12:33 AM |
| | For one Muscat. Every Muscat I've had from Texas wineries was light years ahead of just about every red I've had. | |
Joe
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Winetex
Austin, Texas
Master of Wine
Posts:10751
| | 07/10/2005 3:15 PM |
| | In my non-expert opinion the Texas wineries need to cultivate warm weather varietals. I think they do cab because they feel that's what people will buy. Like WIML the white wines I've tried really have been better than the reds. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:11169
| | 07/10/2005 4:46 PM |
| | Tex, that seems to be the case in all less than stellar regions. In Canada, NY, Virginia, North Carolina, Maryland, etc, the whites are generally better than the reds. | | | |
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texaswino
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2184
| | 07/10/2005 11:07 PM |
| | The whites from Texas far outshine all of the reds I have tasted. Gotta agree with WIML, the best I have had are Muscats and late harvest (sweet) whites. | | | |
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BellaDonna
Barrel Racker
Posts:1890
| | 07/11/2005 12:57 AM |
| | What are good wineries in Texas to visit and tour? | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 07/11/2005 1:12 AM |
| "Good wineries in Texas" is oxymoronic  | | | |
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BellaDonna
Barrel Racker
Posts:1890
| | 07/11/2005 1:16 AM |
| How would you know? You live in California.  | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:11169
| | 07/11/2005 2:11 AM |
| | The best wines from mediocre regions are normally sweet or fortified. The sugar and/or the high alcohol hides a lot of flaws. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12211
| | 07/11/2005 1:25 PM |
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What are good wineries in Texas to visit and tour?
We generally hit the ones in the Texas Hill Country simply because they are all within a reasonable drive of each other so you can make a nice day of it and end up in someplace like Fredericksburg for dinner and a B&B. Makes a nice weekend trip. | |
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BellaDonna
Barrel Racker
Posts:1890
| | 07/11/2005 2:10 PM |
| | Thinking about doing something like this not this weekend but the weekend after that | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 07/11/2005 3:36 PM |
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How would you know? You live in California.
I admit it. I am prejudiced.
A couple of weeks ago I was in Fort Worth and met wiml and Purple at a nice little wine bar. I tasted several Texas wines that the owner was touting and was very impressed at how they tasted.
(Does the word "impress" only mean that something is "good"? If it does I have used the wrong word.) | | | |
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