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2002 Sine Qua Non Hollerin M Pinot Noir
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04-21-2005 06:53 PM  
Very tight in the glass only being able to coax out some dark fruits, cola and spice. Suprisingly lighter bodied with more dark fruits, strawberry ad cherry. A lot better than the No. 6 but still hot, out of balance and not a pleasure to drink.
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04-21-2005 07:00 PM  
thanks for the note....will hold for while.
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04-26-2005 03:22 PM  
I had this last week. After an hour decanted this stuff was in no way hollerin'... It was screamin'.

No formal notes but it was my wotn against some pretty formidable juices.

Now will it get better? You bet your sweet bippy!
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10-08-2005 06:43 PM  
2002 Sine Qua Non Hollerin' M Shea Vineyard (WIML93,WA96,NOWS)

Tasted October 1, 2005 at an offline so brief comments only. Opened and served immediately in a Riedel Restaurant Series Bordeaux stem. Slightly dusty garnet color in the glass. Nose of bacon fat, roasted meat and an underlying somewhat floral component. Flavors of dark cherries and plums. Big chewy, meaty sort of wine. Good stuff. Can be drank now with about an hour in the decanter or possibly over the next 5-6 years. Recommended without reference to price.
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04-03-2006 12:28 PM  
(Take note, RandyW)

Tasted Saturday night. Darkish for a pinot. Slightly muted nose of plumb, licorice, candied wild cherry and moss. Thickish on the palate (for a pinot) with a little heat. Not particularly balanced. While I used many words to describe the nose, not particularly expressive or complex either. Moderate finish. I had about 2oz and the rest went into the dump bucket. I wouldn't have minded drinking it, but there was an open Kosta Browne, a Harlan The Maiden, and 2 mystery wines when the last mystery wine he opened was a Screagle. (This time it was two Quintarellis) 89-90.

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04-07-2006 01:27 PM  
Like I said... glad we aren't competing for the same juice. You say To-mae-toe, I say To-maw-toe, let's call the whole thing off.
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04-08-2006 07:13 AM  


Question for the administrators and/or for everyone: Shouldn't this thread be in the Oregon section? Ithink this wine comes from the Shea Vineyard. Or do we just go by where the winery is located?
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04-08-2006 11:58 AM  
It comes from Shea Vineyard.
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04-08-2006 09:23 PM  
A previousnote.
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04-09-2006 06:32 AM  
Thanks for the link, Winetex!
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06-30-2006 08:29 PM  
I brought this bottle, took one taste and dumped the rest.



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06-30-2006 08:32 PM  
Exactly the way I felt, overblown with no balance.
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06-30-2006 08:55 PM  
ditto...

I still have yet to be impressed with a SQN. I know so many people whose palates I rspect who like them, but for the life of me I still cannot figure out why. I've still not had their Syrah... Maybe that will change my view?
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06-30-2006 09:22 PM  
whiner, if all you've tried is the Pinot, then yes - imo the Syrah (or the Grenache) may well change your mind.
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06-30-2006 10:23 PM  
Yep, try the JFTLOI Syrah, whiner.
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06-30-2006 11:18 PM  
Whiner,

I enjoy SQN, just not the pinot. It is not pinot.
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07-01-2006 01:57 AM  
I'll try to hunt down some Syrah and or Grenache... they are the ones outstanding.

But, I've had the No. 6 and Hollerin' M Pinots, three dry whites, including the Albino, and a dessert wine. Still nothing doing.
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07-01-2006 03:06 AM  
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My score would be lower but that would take into account a stylistic preference. (88 pts.)




I'm curious about this. If itsyour tasting note, then why wouldn't you call it as you see it and give it 85 points or 83 points or whatever you think its worth?

Some months back I tasted a Hundred Acre cab (I don't have access to my notes at the moment but I think it was the '02) that I didn't like at all. I found it to be simple, sweet and lacking structure - a real gooball. Not my style at all and I ended up rating it at 85 points. There were a couple of raised eyebrows but the other tasters understood my objections and realized that this was just my opinion and my rating. My attitude is that wines don't have feelings - call it as you see it. (Just don't diss a wine in front of the winemaker!)

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07-01-2006 03:29 PM  
I try to score them for their quality and not for my preferences. If someone happens to read my notes but doesn't share my palate they might find something usable in the notes. I usually note when this happens such as on the SQN.

On the SQN I would have scored it an 86 if style was factored in. Others at the table liked it. To each their own. Gotta agree with you on Hundred Acre cabs as I haven't found one that I liked yet.
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07-01-2006 06:43 PM  
Got it - thanks.
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