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04/17/2008 6:24 PM  
As an Episcopalian who has been married to a wonderful Jewish woman for almost 25 years, I've gotten used to having to find Kosher for Passover wine to take to the Seder (one of the problems with being the family wine geek, I'm always expected to bring wine, but I don't mind.)

This year I picked up:

a 2006 Golan Emerald Riesling
two 2003 Capcanes Montsant Peraj Ha'abib (I love this wine, and have been buying it for the last three years)
a 2003 Herzog Special Reserve Edna Valley Syrah
a 2005 Hamasrek Gewurztraminer Judean Hills.

Of the wines, I've only had the Capcanes and Herzog before, so I'm looking forward to seeing if the Golan is sweet enough for my mother-in-law's tastes.

What are the other folks who are buying wine for the Seder getting?
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04/17/2008 9:43 PM  
You are actually going to have Kosher wines?!? You are a better man than I am. :-)

I just can't take kosher wines. I've tried a lot over the years, all undrinkable to barely drinkable. Life is too short for bad wine - I read that somewhere. :-)

The meals will be Passover-proof. But, I will drink the good stuff! I just can't deal with kosher wines.
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04/18/2008 8:25 AM  
Before anyone tells me, I spelled Seder wrong in the title of this thread.
 
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I highly recommend the Capcanes.  It is a Kosher wine that can hold its own against non-kosher wines.  It also ages well.  For the most part I do not like Kosher wines, but there have been great strides in making Kosher wines that are to paraphrase the old car commercial, "not your Father's Kosher wine."
 
My in-laws only do Passover Kosher, and as such I take Kosher wines (it goes with the Kosher turkey) when we go to the Seder.  That is why I try to find drinkable KFP wines.  And I've been at this long enought ot know there is Kosher, and there is Kosher for Passover.  All the wines above are KFP.
 
And thank you jamietown for turning me on to Potomoc Wine and Spirits, where I now go for KFP wine every year.
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04/18/2008 8:40 AM  
I'd love to experience a real passover meal....I am not jewish or even religious, but the idea of getting together and spending time with family and friends and unique foods is universal I think.

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04/18/2008 9:18 AM  
Din, glad to hear it - is Dylan still there?
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04/18/2008 9:42 AM  
Heh - was going to ask you if you were buying for Darth Vader's cousin...

Of course, the first wine that came to mind was Manischewitz :-D

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04/18/2008 4:02 PM  
Posted By jaimetown on 04/18/2008 9:18 AM
Din, glad to hear it - is Dylan still there?


Actually, I never got a name.  There was a younger guy who helped me and an older guy at the counter who seemed to know who you are.
 
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Nothing unique, except for heroset (I spelled tht wrong too) and the typical Jewish foods like kugels, etc.  We always have a turkey at the Seder.  Oh yeah, there is the Seder plate with the shank bone, bitter herb, etc. too.  But they are a lot of fun, but I have been so some that are just toooooooo long, but those were at an Orthodox home.
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04/18/2008 5:38 PM  
I will be representing the Irish/German/Danish/Athiest contingent and bringing non-Kosher wine:

2 x 2005 Joseph Swan Saralee's Vineyard Pinot Noir

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04/19/2008 10:55 AM  
As the resident wine geek in the T-Rep family, I'm also elected to find the kosher for Passover wines. Mrs. T grew up in a kosher household while I hardly have a kosher bone in my body. Nonetheless, our seders have to have kfp wines, none of which I've ever found to be anywhere near enjoyable. That being said, I picked up the following wines for our two seders...
2007 Ness Ribera Del Jucar...2004 Hagafen Napa Valley Merlot...2004 Golan Chardonnay...2004 Galil Chardonnay.

Poolboy...if Saundra and I were going to do the second seder, you and Debbie would have had an invite, but we've been invited to a friends' house instead. Next year hopefully.

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04/21/2008 8:39 AM  
poolboy,  If (actually when) we ever get to the point of doing a Seder at our house instead of going to the in-laws you will definitely be invited.  Who knows, we might even make you read the four questions.
 
As to the wines,
 
The Golan Emerald Riesling never got opened and is sitting in the refrigerator at my mother in  law's house.
 
The 2003 Capcanes Montsant Peraj Ha'abib was the definite hit of the night.  I actually tried to keep it away from the folks who will drink almost anything as long as it is cheap, but no dice.  Everyone who tasted it kept asking for it to be passed to their end of the table.  Wonderful wine, in spite of being KFP.  Dark fruits, mainly plums and a little cassis, mocha and tobacco with a spicy finish.  I wish I had bought more and will have to go look for some (I should have bought that 3L that I was offered.) 
 
It wasn't until both bottles of the Capcanes were gone that the Herzog Special Reserve Edna Valley Syrah got any real play.  It was good, but paled in comparison.  Lots of blackberry fruit flavors, licorice and a little spice.  Firm tannins, it would be a star in most lineups of KFP wines.
The half bottle of the 2005 Hamasrek Gewurztraminer Judean Hills was a big hit with the sweet wine crowd.  (They were also the ones drinking the syrupy wine left over from making the charoset so I discount their tastes) and as such it was an excellent choice because it allowed them to have something that was drinkable to the rest of us.  Not what I would normally recommend, but as semi-dry Gwertz. goes, not at all bad.
 
Dinner was the typical Passover meal, gifilete fish, matzoh ball soup, turkey, a couple of kugels, stuffing made with matzoh, green beans, (don't forget the pickles) etc.  The horseradish was freshly made (and homemade) and was strong enough to take the top of your head off.  Made for some wonderful Hillel sandwiches.  And enough desserts to put anyone into diabetic shock (fruit , apple cake, cheese cake, macaroons, etc.) 
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04/21/2008 9:57 AM  
All kosher wines for our Seders

2003 Capcanes - Flor de Primivera - Peraj Habib - Monsant
2000 Roberto Cohen Corton -
2004 Domaine du Castel - (probably best Israeli Bordeaux Blend)
2006 Capcanes Petit Peraj - Montsant
2004(?) Orna Cabernet (Israel)
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04/21/2008 7:31 PM  
06 Coeur D’Alene Cellars Washington State Viog
03 A. Rafanelli Dry Creek Valley Sonoma Coast Zin
04 Melville Estate Verna’s Syrah
04 Penfolds Bin 407 Cab Sauv
06 Acacia Napa Valley Pinot

None were kosher. :-) But, goes well with matzoh! :-)
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04/21/2008 8:50 PM  
Thank you Jesus that my wife's family is not kosher. 
Wine choices are so much better for the seder.

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04/21/2008 9:29 PM  
Posted By Randy Sloan on 04/21/2008 8:50 PM
Thank you Jesus that my wife's family is not kosher. 
Wine choices are so much better for the seder.


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04/21/2008 10:21 PM  
Echoing Randy:

2003 Gloria Ferrer Pinot Noir Rust Rock Terrace
2005 Joseph Swan Vineyards Pinot Noir Saralee's Vineyard

Also a small shot of Manischewitz. I haven't had a fortified wine in a long time. It was tough to take.

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