mountainman  
Mammoth Mountain
Wine Addict
Posts: 6155
 | | 12-01-2002 08:32 PM |
| I have always had my zins in a Riedel Bordeaux/cab glass. A restraunteur aquaintance of mine says I would be amazed at the difference the zin glass makes.
Has anyone some experience with the Riedel zin glass? | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 12-01-2002 08:48 PM |
| | I don't believe it for a second. The distinction is too esoteric. | | | |
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Bradley Molzen
VinoCellar.com Admin
Bayonne, NJ
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5054
| | 12-01-2002 09:10 PM |
| The only time I notice a real difference is when the glass is either noticeably larger or smaller, or the shape is completely different. My Syrah vinum and bordeaux vinum don't make a difference to me, but moving to a Burgundy vinum does due to the extreme shape change. Likewise, moving to the Sommelier series of any glass makes a HUGE difference due to the incredible increase in size. Admittedly, I think most of the difference is with the bouquet... the aromas coming off a Sommelier glass of any kind can be amazing due to the increased surface area.... of course letting more evaporation occur.
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GATC
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2420
| | 12-02-2002 12:57 AM |
| Relvis, I agree with you. I've also been able to notice a difference only if the bowl sizes are significantly different. In a simple blind study, I could not tell the difference between similar size glasses made from Riedel, Spiegelau or a knockoff. This also demonstrated that I could not tell the difference between crystal or glass since the knockoff was glass.
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Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts: 9425
| | 12-02-2002 12:59 AM |
| | Board-O, didn't you do a test a while ago which involved several different "glasses", including a mayonaise jar? | | | 2008: the end of an error | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 12-02-2002 02:55 AM |
| | Yessir. There was no discernable difference between the Riedel Sommelier Series and Lennox Tuscany series. The glasses are virtually identical, with the only difference being a slight difference in the size of the pedestal base of the glass. Second and thrid, with very little diference between these two, were a mayonniase jar and balloon glasses. The idea that a Zinfandel would taste better from a Zinfandel glass than a Bordeaux glass is ludicrous to me. I beleieve the attention being paid here borders on anal. | | | |
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Bradley Molzen
VinoCellar.com Admin
Bayonne, NJ
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5054
| | 12-02-2002 04:01 AM |
| | That being said... (what board-O said also) I really love having all sorts of different glasses lined up in my cabinets... so pretty. :-) Don't have any Zinfandel glasses though... hehe. | | | If you drink wine, you get smarter.... | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 12-02-2002 04:09 AM |
| | You must have a very big house, Rev. I have so many glasses now, some of them are stored in boxes in the cellar. | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts: 13767
| | 12-02-2002 03:00 PM |
| I am getting to that point, Board-o. But not quite.
I think that a wildly differnt bowl size would make a difference, as would a shape of the bowl difference, like the other posters have said.
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mountainman
Mammoth Mountain
Wine Addict
Posts: 6155
| | 12-02-2002 03:33 PM |
| Herein lies my curiousity. The Riedel zin glasses appear to be smaller than their chard glasses.  | | | |
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RawReds
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 646
| | 12-02-2002 10:31 PM |
| | Having just received the Lenox Tuscany: bordeaux, burgandy, goblet and white wine glasses.. they rock. Very similar to the Riedel and cheap enough that if they break I don't have a seizure. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 12-03-2002 02:34 AM |
| | RR, the Lenox Tuscany series are indistinguishable from the Riedel Sommelier Series. The thickness of the glass, size, and shape are dentical. The one difference I can find is the width of the pedestal base. | | | |
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gus fleener
gilroy, ca
Wine Thief
Posts: 2672
| | 12-03-2002 02:51 AM |
| mm,
i would definitely try before buying. it is interesting, even if only from a marketing standpoint, that they contend to have scientifically developed a size & shape of stemware for damn near everything. reidel even sells water glasses & tequila glasses. if you, or anyone else for that matter, try these special zinfandel glasses, be sure to report your impressions. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 12-03-2002 03:20 AM |
| | Anybody buying Riedel water glasses? LOL | | | |
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Budman 
Philly Suburbs
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 23630
| | 12-03-2002 10:28 AM |
| Board-O,
Are you being a skeptic here???
I can certainly imagine that a properly temperature controlled,
deftly swirled, perfectly shaped Riedel water glass would enhance the
overall aquine (I made that one up) experience for even the
everyday waterophile, unless of course your supply
originates from the city of Philadelphia, where the water has
been given the affectionate moniker 'Schuylkill Punch'. 
Who wouldn't want to rush out and pick up a dozen or two of these???
Maybe at amazon.com even  | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1010
| | 12-03-2002 11:06 AM |
| I've been waiting for the regional water glasses. After all, there are subtle and important differences in water depending on region, style etc.  | | | |
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Budman
Philly Suburbs
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 23630
| | 12-03-2002 04:15 PM |
| GA,
That may be a good idea.
Do you think that the 'legs' are likely to be different for different regions? | | | |
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TCK
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1279
| | 12-03-2002 04:24 PM |
| | Maybe on the Mexican water. | | | |
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mountainman
Mammoth Mountain
Wine Addict
Posts: 6155
| | 12-03-2002 06:18 PM |
| | Before we get pointed towards water glasses here, would I be correct to assume that nobody has tried a zinfandel glass? | | | |
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Edward Bowers
Palm Beach Gardens
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2072
| | 12-03-2002 09:41 PM |
| MM
Have tried them, but tasted Riesling in them. There was a difference in the wine from that glass 400/15 and the Bord glass. The difference is the size 400/15 is 8 7/8" with a cap of 13 3/8 oz. the bord is 8 1/2" and 12 3/4 oz.
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