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06-09-2004 05:16 PM  
Cannot believe there is not a note on this wine yet...

2002 Loring Pinot Noir Santa Rita Hills Clos Pepe Vineyard

Tasted at an offline so brief comments only

Opened and served immediately in restaurant stems without decanting. Purple to dark purple in color yet clear throughout. Nose of licorice, plums, black cherries and other dark fruits. Flavors of bing cherries and plums over an earthy frame. Solid wine. Let it sit another year before trying again.
Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone.
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06-09-2004 09:30 PM  
Thanks for the note on this.

I've got 3 of these bottles in storage, but I haven't even opened up the '01 yet. I wasn't planning on trying one of these until next year some time.

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09-10-2004 01:57 PM  
like joe, i can't beleive this wine hasn't been more thoroughly reviewed here. i took a bottle of this which i decanted for an hour over to a neighbor's house for dinner this past sunday evening to accompany various grilled meats & such.

this wine has a phenomenal nose & flavors of dark berries & hints of spices i can't pick out & a nice long finish. this was significantly better thant he other 2 very good pinots i had the night before ('99 testarossa cuvee niclaire & '01 seasmoke southing).

isn't this the one that got 95 points from mr laube? if so i can't disagree, it gets 95 points from me.

i see no reason to wait on this wine, although i am glad the rest of mine are stored off site .
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09-10-2004 03:10 PM  
Good to hear, Gus. I have one bottle that I'm searching for a special occasion to open.
Maybe I'll have to make one up!!!
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09-10-2004 05:41 PM  
I think most are holding this wine. That may be a good part of the reason you haven't seen more notes and reviews on this board. I wish I had a bottle of this to try myself. I'm sure it's great based on the other 02 Lorings I have had. (Garys', Brosseau)
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12-13-2004 09:01 PM  
I opened this wine and was immediately received Cherry/Floral Pinot aromas.
There was also a whiff a chocolate. I let this bottle sit for 2.5 hours in the decanter before drinking.
The color of the wine was a deep ruby color which barely let me see through the glass.
I swirled the wine and could not get all of the great initial aromas. The wine had a complex earthy flavors with some spice and a slightly tannic finish that makes me think the wine could age some more. What was very surprising to me was how much this tasted like a syrah. This was my last 2002 LWC pinot. I am now firmly in the camp of drinking my Lorings early!!!
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12-13-2004 09:32 PM  
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I am now firmly in the camp of drinking my Lorings early!!!




Al - say it ain't so!!!!
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12-13-2004 10:00 PM  
Hey Russ,

I have 8 unopened 2003 LWC pinots. You still have time to convince to age some of them.
I wasn't a fan of my pinot tasting like a syrah.
When my wife and I received our 2002 LWC pinots,
I think we drank the Brosseau, Rancho Ontiveros and Rosella in about a week!
We really had fun with these tasty fruit forward pinots.
I will be opening a Llama and Rosella very soon!!!
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12-14-2004 01:23 AM  
I haven't opened any of my `02 Loring Clos Pepe's yet. The vineyard produced less than a ton per acre that year and the wine is extremely concentrated and one dimensional at this point. Wes Hagen's own wine, the Clos Pepe Estate (all 115 clone) was like a barrel sample at release. I opened one when I got my case but no others. I don't know if the `02 Ojai Clos Pepe has even been released.

The `00 Loring Garys' has shed weight, is still balanced and ready to drink up. The `00 Loring Clos Pepe is enjoyable, but a year away from maturity. Brian's wines age gracefully, but if you like them young, by all means go for it.
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12-14-2004 09:04 PM  
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I wasn't a fan of my pinot tasting like a syrah.





Al - I also have not tasted this wine yet, but based on what Bob and others have said I feel confident that any syrah character you found in this wine is a result of youth rather than age. Since my preference in CA pinot is to let them rest awhile (I probably shouldn't use the term age since a year or two in the cellar is not really aging) to allow some complexity to emerge, I will not try to convince you since full throttle fruit forwardness may be your preferred style. Drink 'em upon birth, or drink 'em with a little rest, either way is good as long as the wine is enjoyed.
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12-16-2004 03:32 PM  
I place my remaining CPs in the very back of the cellar.

  • 2002 Loring Wine Company Pinot Noir Clos Pepe Vineyard - Santa Rita Hills, Central Coast, California, USA (12/16/2004)
    Very dark purple in color; This is the second bottle we opened of this wine. The first was in 6/2004 and was very dark-fruit forward in its youth. Over the past few months it has gained some complexity, mostly in the addition of complex spices and chocolate on the nose and finish. A very good wine and the only negative I would note was a bit of alcoholic bitterness on the finish, even at the right serving temperature. It also gets a gold star for rising to a very challenging food match. I chose this wine because I thought it could stand up to the fresh rosemary in the shrimp.

    Of all of the 2002 Loring wines this one seems to call for additional cellar time. Now that I'm entering these into CellarTracker! I can better schedule the wines.

    [$40; Decanted 1.5 hours but recommend at least 2 hours; A bizarre meal of grilled rosemary garlic shrimp, grilled asparagus and a salad with blue cheese (!)] (92 pts.)


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01-31-2005 05:00 PM  
You are probably shocked I opened this bad boy at such a young age but it was only because Brian...well, let's just say he twisted my arm.

  • 2002 Loring Wine Company Pinot Noir Clos Pepe Vineyard - USA, California, Central Coast, Santa Rita Hills (1/29/2005)
    As I suspected this is a HUGE pinot. I decanted and begin slowly sipping on this after an hour. The color is a dark semi-translucent ruby with bright ruby at the rim. The bouquet was awesome with cinnamon, clove, other Christmas spices, pomegranate, dark cherry, and a hint of alcohol. The palate was a huge dose of spicey black cherry, and to a lesser extent dark raspberry. The finish is long but did exhibit a touch of heat from the alcohol. The wine continued to drink at the same level for the 4 hours that it sat in the decanter. After about 3 hours a nice dark chocolate note begin to emerge on the palate and finish. As I stood by the sink preparing to wash my glass, I found myself coaxing every last drop out of the glass. Always a good sign. On day 2, after being stored in an air-tight carafe in the fridge, I felt the wine was better balanced with no hard edges. The dark chocolate on the palate and finish was more evident with a little more acidity on the finish. This wine has tons of stuffing that will add to the complexity with another 2 years of age. I assume most folks only have a few bottles of this wine and I would highly recommend waiting on it.

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01-31-2005 08:13 PM  
HOORAY!! Way to go Russ! I'm glad you followed my iinstructions and didn't sit on that bottle any longer

I'm sure the 2002 Clos Pepe will last a while longer, but I know that all the spice will start to fade. That's the reason I ask people to try them young.
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01-31-2005 10:53 PM  
Brian - now that you have shown me the light, although I am still planning to let most of my Lorings age a little, which of your '03s do you recommend opening now? All of them is not an answer!!
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01-31-2005 11:32 PM  
Great thread. Brian thanks for posting. I know that we all enjoy getting advice/suggestions from you and your fellow winemakers that post.
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02-01-2005 12:11 AM  
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All of them is not an answer!!



Well... yes it is! I think the Garys' and Rosella's are the most approachable right now. The Clos Pepe is really tight, and The Llama and Cargasacchi both could use some time to resolve the oak. The Brosseau and Ontiveros are unknowns for me since I haven't tried them recently.
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02-01-2005 05:38 AM  
Brosseau is drinking nicely, but will better with a year or so. The Garys' and especially the Rosella's are much more ready to drink. I haven't tried any of the others, largely based on your rec's.

-Al
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02-02-2005 01:15 AM  
Al, if you have more than one Llama, I think it's worth trying one now. I had one with Eric Lundblad and some other friends a month ago and with a little air it was drinking very nicely.
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02-02-2005 01:43 PM  
My problem is that I'd love to take one of the Lorings to a restaurant to have a great meal with a great bottle of wine, but decanting is not possible. With the open container laws here, and the fact that many restaurants are very leary of bottles that have been opened prior to arrival, the Lorings just don't get time to open in that setting.

I'm taking my wife to Kinkead's (here in DC) for her birthday next month. I want to take a nice Pinot Noir (along with a Chard) but don't know what to take that will be at it's best if I open it when I arrive. One of the Lorings, one of the Martinelli's (I'd jump at taking the Blue Slide, but it would be a waste if I can't decant it for a couple of hours at least before going), a WesMar, a R-C, or maybe a ROAR? Hard to decide.
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02-02-2005 02:02 PM  
DW-- If you take a WesMar, do you have any Piner Ranch? If so, take that -- it's drinking quite well, IMO.
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