Bob Bressler  
Napa Valley
Wine Lover
Posts: 4891
 | | 02-06-2008 02:46 PM |
| Instead of highjacking the poor Pinot thread, I'll start this one. I think that I have now sent out offer emails to everyone who should be expecting them. If you did not get one and would like to order some wine, please PM or email me (Bob at BresslerVineyards dot com) | | |
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tanglenet 
Oakland, California
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3265
| | 02-06-2008 02:51 PM |
| Bob, I forgot. But when will you be shipping? At least Ground to the Bay Area?
Thx | | | TN posted on Cellartracker"
I drink no more than a sponge." François Rabelais | |
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Bob Bressler
Napa Valley
Wine Lover
Posts: 4891
| | 02-06-2008 03:12 PM |
| | California will likely be the first week in March. I might try to get the hot states (FL, TX, AZ, LA...) out the previous week. I always try to go through a bunch of tests with New Vine to make sure nothing broke since last year. | | | |
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Daniel Bailey
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1476
| | 02-06-2008 03:16 PM |
| | Bob are you going to use NVL's new shipper (assuming its available)?
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Bob Bressler
Napa Valley
Wine Lover
Posts: 4891
| | 02-06-2008 04:18 PM |
| | There you go. Why would they tell their customers about something like this? What new shipper? I assume this replaces the old bulk inserts. They had problems with heavier bottles, but not regular bottles. | | | |
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Daniel Bailey
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1476
| | 02-06-2008 04:59 PM |
| Supposedly this new packagaing from NVL keeps the bottles at proper temp for five days thereby enabling a winery to ship via slower methods (i.e. ground generally) and at any time of year. Right now NVL is only allowing its winery customers to use the technology. | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5168
| | 02-06-2008 05:02 PM |
| I would say: "Very cool". But that seems too obvious. | | | Beta testing a new signature. | |
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tanglenet
Oakland, California
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3265
| | 02-06-2008 05:24 PM |
| Thanks Bob.
FYI, the packaging sounds like they're using gel packs. Also, sounds expensive, especially the part of "send back for reusing" via UPS. This is probably the eco-friendly option offered to customers instead of stryo? | | | TN posted on Cellartracker"
I drink no more than a sponge." François Rabelais | |
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Seamus Campbell
Portland, Oregon
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 411
| | 02-06-2008 05:30 PM |
| | Seems like dropping the temperature of the wine 20F over a few hours (4-5 if the graph is accurate) would be a bad idea and might lead to pushed or pulled corks, no? | | | |
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scottj
Houston, TX
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1096
| | 02-06-2008 05:57 PM |
| Posted By Bob Bressler on 02/06/2008 3:12 PM
California will likely be the first week in March. I might try to get the hot states (FL, TX, AZ, LA...) out the previous week. I always try to go through a bunch of tests with New Vine to make sure nothing broke since last year. The last week of February would be great ! We were over 80 yesterday - cooler today - but it seems winter is definitely over.
Besides, I'm traveling in early March and won't be here to receive any wine ...
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scottj
Houston, TX
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1096
| | 02-06-2008 06:05 PM |
| Posted By Seamus Campbell on 02/06/2008 5:30 PM
Seems like dropping the temperature of the wine 20F over a few hours (4-5 if the graph is accurate) would be a bad idea and might lead to pushed or pulled corks, no?
Shouldn't be a problem, unless you're starting at 25-30F, and freezing the wine. If I take a bottle from the cellar at 55F and put it in the refrigerator at 35-38F, there's no ill effects on either the wine or the cork.
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Bob Bressler
Napa Valley
Wine Lover
Posts: 4891
| | 02-06-2008 06:38 PM |
| Posted By Daniel Bailey on 02/06/2008 4:59 PM Supposedly this new packaging from NVL keeps the bottles at proper temp for five days thereby enabling a winery to ship via slower methods (i.e. ground generally) and at any time of year. Right now NVL is only allowing its winery customers to use the technology.
OK, according to NVL, a 2 bottle packaging will be available in March with larger sizes "in time for the summer shipping season". The summer shipping season??? The 2 bottle solution is priced at $15. I haven't figured out how that compares apples to apples with the other solutions, but it seems like a lot. I guess you only do it when you really need it.
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Daniel Bailey
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1476
| | 02-06-2008 06:54 PM |
| My question would be is the delta of the price of the new shipper over the old shipper less than the delta of the cost of shipping two day air versus ground. If so then coughing up the $15 for the new shipper is warranted. Doubt there will ever be a need for the shipper in Northern California unless you want to ship during the summer. | | | |
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Al_ksyrah
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2091
| | 02-07-2008 12:43 AM |
| Assuming the graph is correct, it must be a fairly sizeable frozen gel pack (or similar) surrounded by a decent amount of insulation. I doubt that will be economically palatable except for fairly expensive wines.
-Al | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5168
| | 02-07-2008 10:17 AM |
| | And I doubt it is truly necessary unless one wants to "take advantage" of shipping in summer months. | | | Beta testing a new signature. | |
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Daniel Bailey
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1476
| | 02-07-2008 12:40 PM |
| | You would think so but fulfillment to warmer parts of the United States is seemingly always a nightmare for wineries. | | | |
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davidandrose
Aurora, CO
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1677
| | 02-09-2008 11:57 PM |
| Two or three years back, Salinia shipped their pinot with "frozen?" gel packs in the styro shippers. The gel was completely thawed in the styrofoam shipper sent ground (2-3 days typical transit) to the Denver area, although the bottles certainly were cool to the touch when I opened the box at my desk. That could have been the "cool" gel as much as it could have been attributed to a "cool" Colorado night on the UPS loading dock. | | | |
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Dave Mci
Hudson, OH
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 697
| | 02-10-2008 08:44 AM |
| | I think Joe Davis at Arcadian was experimenting with something similar. | | | |
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mountainman
Mammoth Mountain
Wine Addict
Posts: 6156
| | 02-11-2008 12:57 AM |
| | Hey my '04 Bressler cabs and '06 pinots are already resting in my cellar! | | | |
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Rob Kim
Las Vegas, Nevada
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 447
| | 02-11-2008 01:26 AM |
| | Jealous, mine should be arriving in a month - any thoughts on the CS or PN?
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