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davidandrose   Aurora, CO Barrel Racker
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 | | 03-15-2008 09:54 AM |
| I haven't bought or visited or received anything from this winery in 4-5 years.....Lo and behold - there's an offering in my email box this morning!! 6-packs (limit 2) for $654, 3 packs (limit 4) at $327, Mags @ $245(2) or 3 litre for $545 I'm curious to try one again maybe in a restaurant, as their wines have been good, just phenomenally overpriced. Before hitting the delete button, I had to check their website, and their tastings are now $65/person. I remember being overwhelmed by a $25 charge (apply to purchase) shortly after they moved into their new winery. $65 may be a Napa record. | | |
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kpak   Alaska
 Wine Bottler
 Posts: 3021
 | | 03-20-2008 05:31 PM |
| I think that IS a record. Shafer tasting is only 45 ... | | | In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is
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| Daniel Bailey  
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 | | 03-20-2008 05:36 PM |
| | Its a nice tasting and tour (I oftentimes take visitors to the Valley there). $65 is real money no doubt (it was $25 the last time I was there and you could apply the $25 to any wine purchase you made) but the charge does make the experience better for visitors because it limits crowds. | | | |
| mountainman   Mammoth Mountain Wine Addict
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 | | 03-20-2008 06:06 PM |
| | Shafer charges? Is that new? | | | |
| kpak   Alaska
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 | | 03-20-2008 06:32 PM |
| Shafer charges? Is that new?
I don't know how new... we last went in feb 07.
They don't skimp, however, and you get to taste everything they've got, including HSS.
The $65 at Quintessa seems excessive IMO. If they are trying to limit crowds, they can do that by limiting appointments.
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| Daniel Bailey  
Barrel Filler
 Posts: 1476
 | | 03-20-2008 07:00 PM |
| $65 is quite a lot granted. However Quintessa is selling a high end wine priced in the triple digits. They don't want to be pouring it for whomever is just cruising along the Silverado Trail and wants to stop because the winery looks cool. Not only are they seeking to provide a high level experience for visitors but they are trying to limit the experience to the right kind of customer (i.e. a customer who is potentially willing to pony up more than $1,500 a case). Limiting appointments doesn't fulfill both of these goals. Charging a high tariff does. When Sterling wants $20 per person for a ride up to the winery and tastes of some cheapies plus $50 to taste some reserve Cabs and Merlots, I don't have a problem with Quintessa raising its prices from $25. Napa is seriously overrun with tourists and daytrippers seeking free/cheap alcohol. High end wineries have to do something to both limit crowds and market to their targeted consumers. I'd rather they charge high prices then eliminate access entirely as many top end wineries do. | | | |
| davidandrose   Aurora, CO Barrel Racker
 Posts: 1676
 | | 03-21-2008 09:29 AM |
| Posted By mountainman on 03/20/2008 6:06 PM
Shafer charges? Is that new?
Shafer has charged for years, though I think the increase from 25 to $45 is recent. If you're on either one of the mailing lists they'll waive the fee, and I've frequently sampled 2 vintages of HSS during their tastings. | | | |
| JimmyV   Central Connecticut
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 Posts: 5168
 | | 03-21-2008 02:11 PM |
| Posted By Daniel Bailey on 03/20/2008 7:00 PM $65 is quite a lot granted. However Quintessa is selling a high end wine priced in the triple digits.
Don't know if this the case or not, but if they still apply the tasting fee to the purchase of a bottle, you are halfway to owning a bottle already, and would probably be foolish for not spending the extra $60 to take one home. Or $120 to take 2 home, assuming you arrived with another person. This is what they are banking on. If Fred and Ethel pony up an extra $60, they bring a bottle home and have perhaps converted a new customer.
I know this is a$$ backwards, but low tasting fees that are applied to purchases never incentivize me to buy the wine. If I am only in for $10, and the wine I want is $100, I don't feel compelled to buy anything. But if were in for $65 and the wine is $125 (and really good, of course), I would likely buy one every time.
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| jason   Napa Valley
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 Posts: 6840
 | | 03-21-2008 02:47 PM |
| Posted By davidandrose on 03/21/2008 9:29 AM Posted By mountainman on 03/20/2008 6:06 PM
Shafer charges? Is that new?
Shafer has charged for years, though I think the increase from 25 to $45 is recent. If you're on either one of the mailing lists they'll waive the fee, and I've frequently sampled 2 vintages of HSS during their tastings.
Hmm...I didn't know that, I have been there quite a few times and have never been charged. | | | |
| Daniel Bailey  
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 | | 03-23-2008 08:26 AM |
| Posted By JimmyV on 03/21/2008 2:11 PM Posted By Daniel Bailey on 03/20/2008 7:00 PM $65 is quite a lot granted. However Quintessa is selling a high end wine priced in the triple digits.
Don't know if this the case or not, but if they still apply the tasting fee to the purchase of a bottle, you are halfway to owning a bottle already, and would probably be foolish for not spending the extra $60 to take one home. Or $120 to take 2 home, assuming you arrived with another person. This is what they are banking on. If Fred and Ethel pony up an extra $60, they bring a bottle home and have perhaps converted a new customer.
I know this is a$$ backwards, but low tasting fees that are applied to purchases never incentivize me to buy the wine. If I am only in for $10, and the wine I want is $100, I don't feel compelled to buy anything. But if were in for $65 and the wine is $125 (and really good, of course), I would likely buy one every time.
The last time I was there they applied the fee towards a purchase. That was before the tasting price was raised however so I don't know current policy.
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