Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts:9258
 | | 02/06/2008 5:07 PM |
| Offer is out: My allocation and prices: (9) 2005 Tempest: $65 (1) 2005 The Bard: $75 (12) 2005 Dr. Crane: $85 (6) 2005 Farella: $85 (3) 2005 Beckstoffer To Kalon: $95 Large formats, allocation is 1 each: Tempest: $163.50 The Bard: $187.50 Dr. Crane: $212.50 Farella: $212.50 Beckstoffer To Kalon: $237.50 | | | |
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J cocktosten
Grape Sorter
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Rob Kim
Las Vegas, Nevada
Grape Sorter
Posts:235
| | 02/06/2008 5:16 PM |
| | Pretty sizable allocation, my allocation was 3/0/6/2/1 (12 total) with no mags. | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5112
| | 02/06/2008 5:23 PM |
| | Mine was even smaller: 1/0/6/2/1 with no mags. Pretty bummed about this as I had budgeted for both Bard and To Kalon. Somehow, after buying 3 Bard last year, I was cut back to 0. And to make matters worse, I had moved my Merus money over to this producer to buy even more. And to top it off, I made a "convert" who wants to piggyback on my order. This was going to be a big order. Now, not so much. Gonna have to rethink passing on Merus. | |
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Daniel Bailey
Grape Puncher
Posts:731
| | 02/06/2008 5:28 PM |
| | Considering the turmoil at Merus if I had limited funds I'd think twice (and then some) before investing in Merus. | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5112
| | 02/06/2008 5:32 PM |
| | True enough. More of a rant than anything else. I should have said: "Looks like I am going to have to move this budgeted money over to Jones Family." | |
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Daniel Bailey
Grape Puncher
Posts:731
| | 02/06/2008 5:39 PM |
| Of course as you know I didn't mean it that way (although naturally I like the way you think...).
Re Merus my primary concern would be the current bottle that at $135 is pushing your envelope (as it does mine) may well turn into a $200+ bottle in a short time frame given the change in ownership. | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11879
| | 02/06/2008 6:09 PM |
| | Realm... WIML! | | | |
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Rob Kim
Las Vegas, Nevada
Grape Sorter
Posts:235
| | 02/06/2008 6:38 PM |
| Posted By Daniel Bailey on 02/06/2008 5:28 PM
Considering the turmoil at Merus if I had limited funds I'd think twice (and then some) before investing in Merus.
Not to hijack the Realm thread, but what turmoil at Merus? if it is the ownership change, will it affect the 2005 release?
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Dave
Wine Thief
Posts:2899
| | 02/06/2008 11:47 PM |
| | Mine was 3/0/6/2/1. I was one of the people whose check was cashed after the fire. I applied my credit to the 2004 vintage. I recall them saying that the people that were caught up in that tragedy would get extra large allocations henceforth. I guess that didn't last long. I suppose its neither here nor there since I'm not ordering anyway. | | | |
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Vine
Milwaukee, WI
Grape Fermenter
Posts:696
| | 02/07/2008 12:08 AM |
| Posted By Rob Kim on 02/06/2008 6:38 PM Posted By Daniel Bailey on 02/06/2008 5:28 PM
Considering the turmoil at Merus if I had limited funds I'd think twice (and then some) before investing in Merus.
Not to hijack the Realm thread, but what turmoil at Merus? if it is the ownership change, will it affect the 2005 release?
Anyway, this hasn't affected the 2005 release.
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5112
| | 02/07/2008 10:24 AM |
| Posted By Dave on 02/06/2008 11:47 PM
Mine was 3/0/6/2/1. I was one of the people whose check was cashed after the fire. I applied my credit to the 2004 vintage. I recall them saying that the people that were caught up in that tragedy would get extra large allocations henceforth. I guess that didn't last long. I suppose its neither here nor there since I'm not ordering anyway.
E-mail correspondence with the winery reveals that allocations were done entirely based on total dollars spent irrespective of which bottlings you have shown a preference for. Even if you never ordered a Tempest in the past but ordered The Bard, that would not change the fact that you can order Tempest now, but not the Bard. Allocations do not seem to have been impacted by whether or not you were one of the folks (like me) who allowed them to keep your money after the fire and didn't demand a refund. The irony is that this silly allocation system and poor customer relations will probably result in enough people passing such that those who do order will probably get what they want off the Wish List.
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David Spriggs
Grape Sorter
Posts:311
| | 02/07/2008 2:36 PM |
| Posted By Dave on 02/06/2008 11:47 PM
Mine was 3/0/6/2/1. I was one of the people whose check was cashed after the fire. I applied my credit to the 2004 vintage. I recall them saying that the people that were caught up in that tragedy would get extra large allocations henceforth. I guess that didn't last long. I suppose its neither here nor there since I'm not ordering anyway.
Wow. That is an incredibly poor strategy for Realm to take. How soon they seem to forget about those that helped them.
-Dave-
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Dave
Wine Thief
Posts:2899
| | 02/07/2008 9:19 PM |
| Posted By JimmyV on 02/07/2008 10:24 AM Posted By Dave on 02/06/2008 11:47 PM
Mine was 3/0/6/2/1. I was one of the people whose check was cashed after the fire. I applied my credit to the 2004 vintage. I recall them saying that the people that were caught up in that tragedy would get extra large allocations henceforth. I guess that didn't last long. I suppose its neither here nor there since I'm not ordering anyway.
E-mail correspondence with the winery reveals that allocations were done entirely based on total dollars spent irrespective of which bottlings you have shown a preference for. Even if you never ordered a Tempest in the past but ordered The Bard, that would not change the fact that you can order Tempest now, but not the Bard. Allocations do not seem to have been impacted by whether or not you were one of the folks (like me) who allowed them to keep your money after the fire and didn't demand a refund. The irony is that this silly allocation system and poor customer relations will probably result in enough people passing such that those who do order will probably get what they want off the Wish List.
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Randy Wigginton
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5512
| | 02/08/2008 10:42 PM |
| | Jimmy, were they willing to adjust your allocation? | | | |
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Randy Wigginton
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5512
| | 02/08/2008 10:44 PM |
| | They have a clear but separate wish list area. Is that as good as having a guaranteed allocation? No, but it is better than Harlan (and others), where you send in an order and just see what happens. | | | |
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Randy Wigginton
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5512
| | 02/09/2008 12:09 AM |
| I realized my comment probably does not make sense out of context. I noticed that interestingly enough, there are limits on how much you can wish for. I do not have any inside info, but I suspect the wish list may play an important role in the size of eventual orders
I don't have any interest in Realm other than finding their wines generally very good to excellent.
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5112
| | 02/09/2008 5:03 PM |
| Posted By Randy Wigginton on 02/08/2008 10:42 PM
Jimmy, were they willing to adjust your allocation?
No.They simpy advised to make good use of the Wish List. Because I have a friend who was looking forward to this, I went aggressive. After being allocated one To Kalon, I wish-listed 6 more. And after being offered no Bard, I requested 4. We'll see what happens. I still find it repugnant that someone who bought 3 Bard last year is left "wishing" for 4 this year.
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5112
| | 04/04/2008 2:59 PM |
| | Wish List partially granted. Got 2 out of 4 "Bard"; 3 out of 6 To Kalon. | |
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