The Loosen and Selbach (guess who brought these) were truly eyeopening for the others. In fact I've just had the Edener Treppchen and must confess I remember the Urziger as better. Beautifully balanced, refreshing acidity, mineral complexity over the apple and flowers, rich with some noticeable RS, peppery as a Grüner... I guess Nikola now wants to sell them at the BSS. 90(+)