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2002 Marquis Philips Shiraz ‘9’
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10-07-2003 06:20 PM  
I put the rest of mine into storage hoping a year or two will help lessen the sweetness. They are here locally for $27.00, so I agree, you could do a whole lot worse.
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10-16-2003 02:18 AM  
I opened this bottle 6.5 hours ago and am finishing the last glass. I am not really sure what to make of this wine currently??? It seems a little hot on the nose and astringent on the palate, but still comes through with good amounts of fruit. There is not much tannin to speak of though. Overall this seems a little disjointed and unbalanced as of now, but nonetheless offers the typical MP way of doing Shiraz; juicy, big and in your face. I liked the 2001 better at this stage of the game. I will reserve judgement until another bottle.
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10-18-2003 12:33 AM  
I'm going to guess this wine will follow the way of the '01. When tasted on release it was raw and disjointed: lots of great parts but not a very pleasureable experience. After a year, the wine settled down and became much more integrated and complete, almost complex. I'm thinking the '02 will be the same way.

Here's my big question: will we enjoy the Marquis wines in 5, 10 or 15 years? I suspect the Marquis's have been making wine for years. Does anyone know of older wines they had control over and where they are today?
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10-18-2003 01:55 AM  
The oldest ones I am aware of are the fox Creek wines until-->1998 and the Henry's Drive wines. Sarah Marquis parents are the proprietors of Fox Creek, but I do not know in what year Sparky came aboard and had a hand with things there.
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10-23-2003 06:13 PM  
Tried our first bottle of this last night. I kept thinking "MP Shiraz 9 - it's what's for dinner tonight". Amazingly dense but very disjointed. Nice Snickers bar chocolate notes. It opened a bit after 30 minutes in the decanter but at one hour it was all alcohol. It seemed unbalanced so my hope it that it comes together in the short-term. Not a long-term hold at all.

Fun but immature (reference the earlier discussion in this thread).

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10-23-2003 08:35 PM  
Looks like I turned out to not be the only counter voice. I honestly don't have any idea if this might come together, but my experience with similiar high alcohol wine says "no".
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10-28-2003 03:45 PM  
Had this wine for the first time last night. It was decanted for 24 hours prior to tasting. Nose was of chocolate covered espresso beans...palate was more of a creamy mocha latte and a piece of blueberry pie. It is a huge in your face aussie fruit bomb and I liked it to the tune of 93+. I think more time in the bottle will definitely help. The 24 hours of decanting helped to balance this monster shiraz and tame the alcohol.
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10-31-2003 07:02 PM  
What temperature is everyone serving this at? I intend to open a bottle soon. Thanks!
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10-31-2003 07:04 PM  
Like any red - mid 60s
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12-28-2004 08:34 PM  
  • 2002 Marquis Philips Shiraz 9 - Australia, South Australia, McLaren Vale (12/26/2004)
    The alcohol overwhelmed the rest of the flavors. Otherwise it has lost some of the blueberry syrup flavors it had on release but gained some spices. One more bottle to go and it will be soon. These are taking up valuable cellar space.

    [$25; Decanted 15 minutes but recommend at least an hour; Served with homemade pizza] (90 pts.)



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03-25-2005 04:17 AM  
No notes but I popped one of these 2 weeks ago. It was rockin, with explosive aromatics that are pretty much well-documented. Still young in the palate but not too young. Now isn't a bad time to give one a shot if you have a few more......
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03-25-2005 02:41 PM  
Hello Vitis! Long time no see. Welcome back.
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03-26-2005 01:27 AM  
Thanks Winetex. The official announcement was made in Random Thoughts. Anyway I'll be posting my grand return TN tonight........and it won't be wine!
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01-06-2008 12:10 PM  
$35, Retail.

We all know that Parker rated this 96 points, there is a 3 page conversation regarding. I know Parker likes his Australian wine. But, man oh man, what wine was he drinking &/or what was he thinking?!? Holly molly, 96 points?!?

Anyway, the wine is still a bit on the hot side which takes away from the experience a little. But, overall not a bad bottle of wine. Perhaps, some more hold time is a good idea. My other 2 bottles I will hold a couple more years to see what happens, how the wine develops/changes if @ all.

Last night 90 points, a nice bottle of wine.
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01-22-2008 09:06 PM  
I opened and drank my only two bottles of this wine at two different occasions earlier this year and thought both to be quite yummy. A step up in both body and length in the mouth from the standard Shiraz though still along the same (very acceptable) lines - just more better as it were. A deal if found in the $20-25 range (as I did) and OK at $30 I guess (but there are all sorts of Shirazs out there for the same or less that are also quite yummy) - still quite enjoyable as I recall for both times opened.
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