AlexRed 
Northern VA
Wine Thief
Posts: 2673
 | | 05-11-2005 09:22 PM |
| I have 2 97's left.... the one i had in the fall was not up to what i was expecting. nothing special at all  . I hope they come around. Haven't really sought out any brunellos since because of the experience. | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 05-12-2005 02:24 AM |
| I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Brunello from outstanding vintages need a *minimum* of 10 years from vintage. If you have a bunch of bottles, it wouldn't hurt to try at 10 years. If only one, play it by ear, let others sacrifice their bottles, or wait until 12+. | | | |
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts: 4877
| | 05-12-2005 02:29 AM |
| we have both preaching preaching and it sounds like few people listen. i had a 1990 ciacci a year ago that wasn't quite ready. i had a 1995 collosorbo reserve that was just entering its drinking window. i9 had a bunch of 997's in january that showed their potential, but just that. most shouldn't be revisited for three to four years and a few need a good six or seven. you want to drink a young montalcino, buy some 2003 rosso di motalcinos. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1371
| | 05-12-2005 12:59 PM |
| We are listening guys and holding off on all of our '97s and '99s. THey are so damn tempting though, must resist, must resist. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12542
| | 05-12-2005 01:06 PM |
| OK OK OK!!! I just extended out the drinking windows on all of my 97 & 99 BdMs. Heaven help you guys if they go over the hill by the time I drink them. I'll come looking for you!  | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 05-12-2005 10:28 PM |
| Quote:
OK OK OK!!! I just extended out the drinking windows on all of my 97 & 99 BdMs. Heaven help you guys if they go over the hill by the time I drink them. I'll come looking for you!
lower your cellar temp  | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 05-13-2005 02:18 AM |
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OK OK OK!!! I just extended out the drinking windows on all of my 97 & 99 BdMs. Heaven help you guys if they go over the hill by the time I drink them. I'll come looking for you!
Joe,
If they end up over the hill, I give you permission to fly up to Toronto and smack me upside the head. After which, I'll open up some good juice.
Actually, the latter will happen regardless of when you visit again, but hey, gotta give a bit of incentive.  | | | |
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futronic
Toronto, Canada
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3214
| | 05-13-2005 02:21 AM |
| BTW, I still haven't opened any of my 1995 or 1997 Poggio All'Oro Riserva, and won't for quite some time. I had a chat for Banfi's former brand manager for Canada not too long again, and he said that the '90s are just starting to drink well now, as are the '93s. The more recent vintages need at 4-5 and 7-8 years, respectively. | | | |
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Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts: 13786
| | 05-13-2005 01:29 PM |
| Are the 98s early maturing, in general? | | | www.roguefood.com -- www.cellartracker.com | |
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Winetex
Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
Master of Wine
Posts: 11302
| | 05-13-2005 03:07 PM |
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Joe, If they end up over the hill, I give you permission to fly up to Toronto and smack me upside the head. After which, I'll open up some good juice.
I don't have a lot of the 97s so if you guys are wrong, smack...
Knowing both Ojeffso and Futronic I'm betting they know what they are talking about. | | | |
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts: 4877
| | 05-14-2005 11:44 AM |
| tj-generally the 98's are early maturing, but this is a relative term. you also need to seperate the more traditional producers from the more modern producers. it is also helpful to know in which micro-climate a producer is located, as this will also determine longevity.
i bought only a few bottles of 98 brunello because the initial prices were not worth the variable vintage. in most cases the 99's were only a couple of dollars more. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1074
| | 05-14-2005 09:10 PM |
| I've found the '98's to be quite approachable and lush, frankly. Among the ones that I've enjoyed, the Talenti and Argiano, but caveat, they must have an hour of air.
As to the '97's and '99's I have to admit, I'm not a patient person so the brunellos are a test of my faith will.
The vintage that turned me on to brunellos was the '93 vintage which was not as potent as either the '97 or '99 vintage, but were very different wines from the '98 vintage, or what the '98's are tasting like now at least.
With that said, I suppose I'll hide my '97's and '99's from myself. In brunello we trust! | | | |
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PurpleHaze
Grape Truck Driver
Posts: 47
| | 05-15-2005 01:31 AM |
| This just went back on sale at Zachys for $45 for a 750ml. Not a bad deal.
PH | | | |
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Winoman
Herndon VA
Grape Puncher
Posts: 778
| | 08-03-2005 06:02 AM |
| Quote:
BTW, I still haven't opened any of my 1995 or 1997 Poggio All'Oro Riserva, and won't for quite some time. I had a chat for Banfi's former brand manager for Canada not too long again, and he said that the '90s are just starting to drink well now, as are the '93s. The more recent vintages need at 4-5 and 7-8 years, respectively.
I've opened two 93 Poggio All'Oros in 2004 and one drank exeptionally well and the other was just OK (good fer sure but not great)...I've been eying my one and only 95 with anticpation....and had expected to be opening it soon...hm | | | |
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ChillyWino
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1831
| | 10-16-2005 04:46 PM |
| Opened and decanted. Drank on and off over the next 5 hours. Deep purple. Nice nose- dark berries, spice, leather, meat and smoke with loads of cherry. Started out muted on the palate, but opened up more and more throughout the night. Suprisingly smooth but not much of a finish. Not sure if this is my style of wine. Other possibility is that it was an off bottle(although I don't think so, as no flaws were detected) or it's just to young. | | | |
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts: 4877
| | 10-16-2005 06:03 PM |
| revisit in 2009/2010 and then decide. | | | |
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ChillyWino
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1831
| | 10-16-2005 06:38 PM |
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revisit in 2009/2010 and then decide.
Thanks for the note. I went back through this thread and noted 2009+ for my drinking window. Looks like I need to try and find an older Brunello to try before purchasing any more from recent vintages. | | | |
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts: 4877
| | 10-16-2005 09:09 PM |
| try getting your hands on the 1995 collosorbo brunello riserva. this will give you an idea of how an aged brunello from a modern producer is doing. i have had it a few times in the last year and it is showing very well. for a more traditional producer, try something from the 1982, 1988 or 1990 vintage. the 1988's can be found for a reasonable price, but i would stay away from the riservas. too much wood for the fruit. | | | |
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ChillyWino
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1831
| | 10-17-2005 11:22 AM |
| Quote:
try getting your hands on the 1995 collosorbo brunello riserva. this will give you an idea of how an aged brunello from a modern producer is doing. i have had it a few times in the last year and it is showing very well. for a more traditional producer, try something from the 1982, 1988 or 1990 vintage. the 1988's can be found for a reasonable price, but i would stay away from the riservas. too much wood for the fruit.
Thanks for the tips. I'll look around and see what I can find. I'll be sure to post a TN when I pop a bottle. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12542
| | 07-18-2008 04:25 PM |
| 1999 Castello Banfi Brunello di Montalcino - Italy, Tuscany, Montalcino, Brunello di Montalcino (7/17/2008)
WIML90-91?,PURPLE92
Tasted July 17, 2008.
13% alcohol. Opened and served immediately. Purple color in the glass, clear hue throughout. Nose of licorice, Kirsch and black berries. Flavors of black berries, cherries, plums and raspberries. Bright acidity, medium tannins, medium body. Drink or hold. (90 pts.) | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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