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2002 Sine Qua Non Hollerin M Pinot Noir Last Post 08-21-2006 08:40 PM by MTPockets. 29 Replies. | Sort: |
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David Niederauer 
Los Gatos, CA
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 | | 07-01-2006 08:04 PM |
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I'll try to hunt down some Syrah and or Grenache... they are the ones outstanding.
But, I've had the No. 6 and Hollerin' M Pinots, three dry whites, including the Albino, and a dessert wine. Still nothing doing.
Whiner,
I thought you liked the Albino. IMO the SQN white wines are some of the most complex wines available today. Some are a bit funky but most of them are delicious.
Dessert wine What's a dessert wine?
The best "west coast" Pinot Noir that I have had imo is the 2000 A Capella about two years ago (although I did have one about a week ago and it wasn't nearly as good - although it was tasted along side of an '03 Kanzler KB). | | | |
| whiner
Second star to the right, and straight on till morning
Wine Thief
Posts: 2875
| | 07-06-2006 01:47 PM |
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Whiner,
I thought you liked the Albino. IMO the SQN white wines are some of the most complex wines available today.
I liked the Albino fine. The reason I went over for it was because so many people have raved about that wine, I was really excited to try it... I tasted it and thought it was about a 91 point wine -- a good wine to be sure, I just didn't get the hype -- talking about Alsatian varietals in CA, irrespective of price, I'd take a 2003 Qupe Roussanne Bien Nacido over it; and at $38...
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Dessert wine What's a dessert wine?
sweet wine
Or to be more precise, full-sweet wine (as opposed to partially sweet wines like Auslese or off-dry wines like Spatlese) | | I can't listen to that much Wagner. I start getting the urge to conquer Poland.
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| David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
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| | 07-06-2006 04:54 PM |
| I hear you; $72 v $38 is a big diff. We will have to agree to disagree on which is the better wine though. I am a huge fan of Jim McClendon, not that I like all of his wines, but as a great man and Bob Lindquist is a great guy too. I have had their Rousanne only at a tasting and it was really served too cold for a good evaluation imo. But, imo, the Albino, when served at a 60° temperature, is one of the most complex white wines out there. I really admire the talent that went into making it. Whether one likes the taste of it or not I think the stuff is a masterpiece. Btw, I love the taste  . I had a Whisperin' E last night and it was great. I haven't had the Hollerin' M for a while. I'll put one in the queue. | | | |
| JonesWineNo1
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Posts: 8568
| | 07-07-2006 03:40 AM |
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I liked the Albino fine. The reason I went over for it was because so many people have raved about that wine, I was really excited to try it... I tasted it and thought it was about a 91 point wine -- a good wine to be sure, I just didn't get the hype -- talking about Alsatian varietals in CA, irrespective of price, I'd take a 2003 Qupe Roussanne Bien Nacido over it; and at $38...
Roussanne is a Rhone varietal not Alsatian. If you were expecting Alsace then no wonder you misunderstood the Sine Qua Non which is a blend of Chardonnay, Roussanne, and Viognier.
Qupe makes some nice wines to be sure but its a joke to assert that Qupe is in the same league much less better than SQN. | | | |
| David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
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| | 07-07-2006 03:47 AM |
| Take it easy on the guy Jones. He's just a kid . Considering his young age he's doin' pretty well; just a little sassy to his elders . | | | |
| DukeRiley
McMinnville, OR
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| | 07-07-2006 03:56 AM |
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But, imo, the Albino, when served at a 60° temperature, is one of the most complex white wines out there.
True. And thanks for the chance to try it. | | Heater Allen Brewing
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| whiner
Second star to the right, and straight on till morning
Wine Thief
Posts: 2875
| | 07-07-2006 01:45 PM |
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Roussanne is a Rhone varietal not Alsatian. If you were expecting Alsace then no wonder you misunderstood the Sine Qua Non which is a blend of Chardonnay, Roussanne, and Viognier.
Qupe makes some nice wines to be sure but its a joke to assert that Qupe is in the same league much less better than SQN.
You are absolutely right, Jones. When I said 'Alsatian' I meant 'Rhone'. It was a typing/mind freeze. My favorite Alsatian varietal New World wine is actually the Eroica Single Berry Select Riesling.
Neither the SQN Albino (which is a Rhone-ish blend) nor the Qupe Rousanne Bien Nacido has anything to do with Alsace.
But, actually, as funny as you may find it, I am quite serious that, price irrespective, I would chose the Qupe over the SQN. | | I can't listen to that much Wagner. I start getting the urge to conquer Poland.
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| skwid
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Posts: 5452
| | 07-07-2006 03:58 PM |
| The strong suit of SQN is definitely the Syrah and Genache wines with the white following closely behind. The Pinot can be up and down but is definitely their weakest wine.
In regards to the Hollin' M, I had this soon after it was released and thought it was a mess, the worst SQN pinot I'd ever had. I have not had it since so I don't know if it has gotten any better.
I also could do without the sweet wine. For the money I'd much rather drink Yquem/Rieusecc/Sudiraut/Climens, especially from very good/great vintages. | | | |
| David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
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| | 07-07-2006 05:27 PM |
| I'm starting to think the same thing, skwid, about the Mr. K sweet wines. I haven't had one that has rolled my socks at all... yet. The QUEST goes on though. | | | |
| MTPockets
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Posts: 1838
| | 08-21-2006 08:40 PM |
| This wine showed much better than I anticipated when tried this week. Believe it or not, the nose was actually quite burgundian. The weight of the wine gave it away as new world, which actually (almost) framed the alcohol. | | | |
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