Eric White  San Ramon, CA
 Advanced Sommelier
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 | | 07-17-2003 09:29 PM |
| No, Harvey gave the 99 release 94 points. | | | 2008: the end of an error | |
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ojeffso  warren, new jersey Wine Lover
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 | | 07-17-2003 10:15 PM |
| yes. didn't he originally give it a lower rating? | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 07-18-2003 02:19 AM |
| Did they list a drinking window? | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
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 | | 07-18-2003 02:21 AM |
| drink after 2006. no end date given | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 07-18-2003 02:25 AM |
| Thanks, anthony. | | | |
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Dr_Tannin  Barrel Sampler
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 | | 07-18-2003 03:23 AM |
| anthonyiez-
That's because it will last forever. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
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 | | 07-18-2003 11:28 AM |
| 11 750's and 2 mags, so i sure hope so. actually if i ever have kids i hope to share one of the magnums with them. | | | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 | | 07-18-2003 11:37 AM |
| AI, how old will they be when you do this? | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
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 | | 07-18-2003 02:40 PM |
| well my first dog just turned 3, so iguess that makes him 21. i will let him pick something from the cellar tonight | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
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 | | 09-08-2003 02:41 AM |
| i cracked my first one last night. i know, i know this is not ready yet. so before you guys start drabbing me let me explain. i bought 6 750's and 2 mags from the winery. i then purchased 5 from winelibrary back in june. i think that i posted the problem with the shipping here. they were ground shipped over a weekend in june and showed up a little warm but not too bad. no leaking or soft or pertruded corks. i crated the 6 from the winery up and kept these 5 away from those so i would always know the difference. now i don't know if these 5 are heat damaged or not. they appear normal but might age at a different rate. therefore i will drink them first. anyway i wanted to pop one open to see what is what with them, just needed for them to settle down from their long journey. so here goes my tasting note. WOW! one of the most profound wines i have had in my short wine drinking life. it needed roughly 26 hrs to open up. i can't wait for these babies to get some age on them. i am getting ready for 01. i will be buying all that they alow me to buy plus the magnums! | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 09-08-2003 03:11 AM |
| anthony, when Alex and Jeanette Golitzin, the owners, invited my wife and me into their living room to drink this wine, Alex opened a bottle and poured it immediately into our glasses. I found it very difficult to evaluate the wine at that tasting. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Stomper
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 | | 09-15-2003 07:32 PM |
| I made the mistake of opening up a 2000 QC for a wine tasting this weekned.
Actually, I made a few mistakes. 1st, it was supposed to be a blind tasting of 98, 99, or 00 Cal cabs. Last time I checked QC wasn't a Cal cab. What was I thinking?
Next problem: It was in the mid 90's on Saturday....way too hot for a decent red wine tasting.
Next problem: What was I thinking? I know it's way too early to be opening these bottles, but I have 12 of the '99 and 12 of the '00 and so I thought I'd just grab whatever was handy. It turned out to be the '00
Ok, so my next problem was that I felt that it should at least have been decanted for a few hours before the tasting. But it was so hot this weekend, that I did all of my decanting and storage (of the decanter) in the 55 deg cellar. So the wine was never brought up to temperature. To complicate matters, I had to drop the wine off at my friends house a few hours early, so it was kept in the fridge (as opposed to the 90 deg heat).
It was taken out of the refrigerator before it was served, but it was still at a little less than optimal temperature. Probably in the low 60's.
In the blind tasting of cabs it did not show well at all. No bouquet and nothing revealed on the palate. In short this was a waste of a bottle of wine.
If you're tempted to open one now, please give it proper air time in the decanter---but, most of all, think about grabbing something else and let these guys lie for a few years.
That's my $66.00 worth of advice,
-J | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
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 | | 09-15-2003 07:57 PM |
| i would say something in the neighborhood of 2 hrs in the decanter then 34hrs back in the bottle. | | | |
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TCK  Barrel Filler
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 | | 09-19-2003 04:41 PM |
| I find that a wine in the low sixties is the best temp to serve for analyses. As the wine comes up to temperature the flavor, nose, and mouth feel will evolve. This way you are sure at some point over the evening to taste the wine at the temperature that best meshes the components. (I'm a temp Freek  ) | | | |
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ChangeMe  Barrel Filler
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 | | 10-08-2003 08:26 PM |
| Thanks smaug. Nice article! | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 10-08-2003 08:45 PM |
| I liked the article. Alex told us about the new building and the vineyard ventures when we were there in July. Like his famous uncle, he is driven to produce as high a quality product as is possible. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
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 | | 10-09-2003 12:27 AM |
| great article. thanks for the link smaug. | | | |
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Eric White  San Ramon, CA
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 | | 11-10-2003 03:20 PM |
| We enjoyed this wine Saturday night at the Napstravaganza farwell dinner, and I must say that I was quite suprised to find it as approachable as it was. Yes, it will certainly benifit from some cellar time, and the tannins are firm and prominent, but the wine is surprisingly lush and fruity now. Two thumbs up! | | | 2008: the end of an error | |
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David Niederauer  Los Gatos, CA VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
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 | | 11-10-2003 04:48 PM |
| I gotta agree Eric. WineTex decanted this just as we started dinner and right out of the decanter almost immediately this wine was singing. I really wasn't planning on breaking in to my case for at least another year. I ordered this wine for a couple of my good buddies (a case each) and I'm sure they will drab the stuff. I'm happy that it is showing so nicely right now. | | | |
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