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Wine Thief
Posts: 2875
 | | 12-07-2004 10:43 AM |
| Had this at the BAWE "High-End" tasting in a blind Cab flight. Excellent wine with chocolate, cassis, black raspberry, and a bit of tar. Very long finish and intense, but not particularly heavy, mid-palate. I do not know how long the wine was decanted but it was not drinking like a particularly young wine -- not knowing how long it was decanted, I was guessing this wine would be at its best in about 3-4 years and remain there for some time. This was much better than the WA 98-point 1997 Montelena in the flight and held up better than the WS 98-point 1989 Pichon Baron. It was also vastly superior, imo, to the 1990 Dunn that we had after the blind flight. During the flight, it only lost to the 2001 Karl Lawrence Morisoli which was also my WOTN. 93.5 with, perhaps, some room to improve.
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Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts: 9563
| | 12-09-2004 09:13 PM |
| Tasted at the 2004BAWE Holiday High-end Tasting... An absolutely fantastic nose that is both deep and complex, with wonderful floral notes, blackberries, raspberries, kirsh, and minerals. On the palate the wine possesses outstanding structure and depth, with beautiful integrated tannins, layered complex fruit, and a fine long finish. Just a baby, this wine should really blossom with cellar time, 95+ points, try again in five years. | | | 2008: the end of an error | |
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Jim Hanlon
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1205
| | 12-09-2004 09:57 PM |
| Quote:
Had this at the BAWE "High-End" tasting in a blind Cab flight. Excellent wine with chocolate, cassis, black raspberry, and a bit of tar. Very long finish and intense, but not particularly heavy, mid-palate. I do not know how long the wine was decanted but it was not drinking like a particularly young wine -- not knowing how long it was decanted, I was guessing this wine would be at its best in about 3-4 years and remain there for some time. This was much better than the WA 98-point 1997 Montelena in the flight and held up better than the WS 98-point 1989 Pichon Baron. It was also vastly superior, imo, to the 1990 Dunn that we had after the blind flight. During the flight, it only lost to the 2001 Karl Lawrence Morisoli which was also my WOTN. 93.5 with, perhaps, some room to improve.
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The wine was splash decanted and then immediately rebottled at about 9am that morning. So it had about 7 hours of double decant before it was tasted.
As I said in the other thread, I thought the wine was showing young and a little disjointed, but showing great potential. I'm not opening any bottles for personal use for at least 3-4 years. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1074
| | 12-21-2004 05:10 PM |
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Had this at the BAWE "High-End" tasting in a blind Cab flight. Excellent wine with chocolate, cassis, black raspberry, and a bit of tar. Very long finish and intense, but not particularly heavy, mid-palate. I do not know how long the wine was decanted but it was not drinking like a particularly young wine -- not knowing how long it was decanted, I was guessing this wine would be at its best in about 3-4 years and remain there for some time. This was much better than the WA 98-point 1997 Montelena in the flight and held up better than the WS 98-point 1989 Pichon Baron. It was also vastly superior, imo, to the 1990 Dunn that we had after the blind flight. During the flight, it only lost to the 2001 Karl Lawrence Morisoli which was also my WOTN. 93.5 with, perhaps, some room to improve.
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The wine was splash decanted and then immediately rebottled at about 9am that morning. So it had about 7 hours of double decant before it was tasted.
As I said in the other thread, I thought the wine was showing young and a little disjointed, but showing great potential. I'm not opening any bottles for personal use for at least 3-4 years.
So you won't open it for 3-4 years for personal use, but what use would you open for within then next 3-4 years?  | | | |
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Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts: 9563
| | 12-31-2004 12:42 AM |
| Paul, let's talk  . I'm thinking a trade for one of our upcoming Bordeaux dinners, since I am very light on aged Bordeaux. | | | 2008: the end of an error | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 12-31-2004 12:46 AM |
| paul,
i will highly reccomend that you do whatever you can to secure some of this.
also remember 02 is coming soon and from all indicators it is supposed to be the best qc cab ever. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Truck Driver
Posts: 31
| | 12-31-2004 03:43 PM |
| Yeah and the 03 is even better! Paul if you're still looking for a trade please let me know as I have a lot of 750's and mags.
Cheers, | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 12-31-2004 10:00 PM |
| haven't heard anything on the 03, has anyone else? | | | |
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love_cab_chard
Master of Wine
Posts: 12717
| | 12-31-2004 10:50 PM |
| anthonyiezzi: where did you hear/read that the 02 is the best ever? Just wondering... That would be saying a LOT. And, if that is the case, what kind of allocations will we get??? A cut perhaps??? Hope NOT. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12542
| | 12-31-2004 10:54 PM |
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And, if that is the case, what kind of allocations will we get??? A cut perhaps??? Hope NOT.
I can live with a cut from what I ordered in February (2 cases). | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 01-01-2005 06:09 AM |
| lcc,
rovani has it barrel scored 97-100. i spoke with alex's wife earlier this year and she said that the 02 was going to be the best ever. she said i know that is hard to believe but they really feel the 02 is going to be something special.
maybe 02 is going to be the year they move to allocations, but i hope not. i am looking to buy 24 750's and 6 mags. the real key is to order your mags asap. | | | |
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love_cab_chard
Master of Wine
Posts: 12717
| | 01-01-2005 03:10 PM |
| Thanks for the info/reply. You got me sold.  Wow, 24 - 750's & 6 mag. That's a lot of 1 wine, no? | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 01-01-2005 04:52 PM |
| not if it is better than the 01. have you tried the 01 and caught it after it started singing? | | | |
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Marc A
Grape Sorter
Posts: 259
| | 01-08-2005 02:03 AM |
| Any suggestions?
I am tempted to open a 2000 or 2001 but I'm hesitant. Is either one worth opening now and if so how much time would you recommend decanting? | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12542
| | 01-08-2005 03:38 AM |
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Any suggestions?
I am tempted to open a 2000 or 2001 but I'm hesitant. Is either one worth opening now and if so how much time would you recommend decanting?
FWIW...my second 2000 is scheduled for 2006 and my second 2001 is scheduled for 2008. | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts: 11169
| | 01-08-2005 03:39 AM |
| That's about when my firsts are scheduled, not counting the ones we tasted at the winery. | | | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12542
| | 01-08-2005 03:47 AM |
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That's about when my firsts are scheduled, not counting the ones we tasted at the winery.
Remember I was using my crystal ball routine on these wines my first few vintages with them. One bottle was sacrificed for the sake of science. The rest are scheduled out. | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 01-08-2005 04:46 AM |
| mark,
12 - 18 hrs for either is about right. make sure to save 1 glass for the next day. put it back in the cellar without vacuuming it. you will be amazed. the 1st 01 i opened drank awesome for 4 days just being recorked. | | | |
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Marc A
Grape Sorter
Posts: 259
| | 01-08-2005 02:34 PM |
| Thanks for the response to this.
I have only 5 of each and originally had the 2000 scheduled for '06 and the 2001 for '08. I think I'm going to stick with that. I have a '97 that maybe a better alternative for now.
Thanks again. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Grape Sorter
Posts: 307
| | 01-08-2005 06:39 PM |
| good idea. i should of finished my post by adding...that being said i wouldn't open another one anytime soon. | | | |
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