Randy Wigginton  Master of Wine
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 | | 09-27-2004 04:34 PM |
| Don't have my notes in front of me. I'll try to post this evening, but it was not one of the standouts. | | | |
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Randy Wigginton  Master of Wine
 Posts: 10857
 | | 09-27-2004 10:21 PM |
| Yes, Fay was the first wine to be tasted. It did not show well; a very attractive and promising nose of black fruits yielded to a somehow lacking palate. The nose failed to deliver, which is a shame The finish turned somewhat vegetal. Perhaps it is in a funky state at the moment.  | | | |
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David Niederauer  Los Gatos, CA VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
 Posts: 30914
 | | 09-28-2004 05:20 PM |
| IMO SLWC haven't made a decent Fay since 1992. For that fact IMO they haven't made a decent Cab since 1992. They have been off my list since 1997.
I guess it was pretty good cabernet juice in 1972 when they won the gold medal in France. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
 Posts: 307
 | | 09-28-2004 11:21 PM |
| i have a soft spot in my heart for slwc. they were one of the first wineries that opened my eyes. to this day i still fell the 99 slwc napa cab is a nice wine evern though parker didn't rate it and laube gave it 88 pts. it has always been a a solid 90-92 in my book. | | | |
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LC17SMP  Cypress, Ca. Barrel Filler
 Posts: 1055
 | | 09-28-2004 11:38 PM |
| I am also a Cask 23 member.I haven't had much of their older wines but I do like their current line up so far.I have had the Artemis on a few occasions and I'm beginning to think that someone pissed in the bottles sent to WS.  I would give it an 88. | | | LC17SMP | |
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Winegeek  San Francisco Barrel Racker
 Posts: 1533
 | | 09-29-2004 12:10 AM |
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IMO SLWC haven't made a decent Fay since 1992. For that fact IMO they haven't made a decent Cab since 1992.
I don't know if I'd go back as far as '92 but they certainly have been making unimpressive wine for a while. I taste the SLV, Fay and Cask 23 every year and generally rate them between 85-89 points. If they were $40-$50/bottle, fine, but $100-$150 is laughable. I used to carry them all in my store but these days the only SLWC cab I have is Artemis.
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LC17SMP  Cypress, Ca. Barrel Filler
 Posts: 1055
 | | 09-29-2004 12:40 AM |
| Richard, What did you think of the '01 Cask 23? I haven't tried it myself. WS gave it 95-100 from the barrel. That means they will probably give it a 93 this year.('01 Pride comes to mind) | | | LC17SMP | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
 Posts: 11169
 | | 09-29-2004 01:25 PM |
| I cancelled my membership in Club 23. We had a private tasting at the winery last Summer and they opened anything we wanted. They also had opened a half dozen bottles the evening before our appointment and decanted thewm for us. Nothing was outstanding. As a member of Club 23, you are inundated with mediocre wine. Damn, this winery has really headed South in a hurry. | | | |
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Winegeek  San Francisco Barrel Racker
 Posts: 1533
 | | 09-29-2004 05:25 PM |
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Richard, What did you think of the '01 Cask 23? I haven't tried it myself. WS gave it 95-100 from the barrel. That means they will probably give it a 93 this year.('01 Pride comes to mind)
I think it's the best Cask 23 in several years, but would have liked a bit more structure and a much lower price.
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Bradley Molzen  VinoCellar.com Admin Bayonne, NJ
 Wine Connoisseur
 Posts: 5069
 | | 10-03-2004 09:38 PM |
| I'm in the middle of the bottle, been sipping all day starting at about 1pm. This is some really great juice!!! This really is a gorgeous wine with impeccable build, tremendous flavor depth, super smooth, yet plentiful tannin, nice long finish... love this wine! Worth the price of admission. I'd say the WA95 is worthy. | | | If you drink wine, you get smarter.... | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
 VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
 Posts: 23688
 | | 10-03-2004 11:08 PM |
| For anyone who cares, The Wine Enthusiast gave it 96. I guess Laube will have to give it 91 or so (just to be different).  | | | |
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PourQue  Wine Labeler
 Posts: 3509
 | | 10-04-2004 01:28 AM |
| I have 4 that I will be sitting on for a long time. Needless to say, I'm glad to have them! | | | |
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Bradley Molzen  VinoCellar.com Admin Bayonne, NJ
 Wine Connoisseur
 Posts: 5069
 | | 10-04-2004 04:33 AM |
| while I'd say this is an ager like other insignia's... at the moment it is showing beautifully..... :-) I have 11 more and I have no idea how quickly they may or may not go. :-) | | | If you drink wine, you get smarter.... | |
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Lakersguy  Orange County, CA Barrel Filler
 Posts: 1025
 | | 06-18-2005 06:50 PM |
| I had the second bottle of 01 Insignia I've had last night. THis wine is exceptionally smooth and will only get better. I have to say that I still like the 97 better if you compare each at the same time points after release. I would think the 01 will outlast the 97 but at this point, put the 01's away and drink the 97. I'm going to buy the 02 which I hear is a tad better than the 01.  | | | |
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ChangeMe  Barrel Filler
 Posts: 1273
 | | 06-18-2005 07:08 PM |
| Yeah I have a couple of these and with the exception of the one I'm bringing to the Cult Cab tasting in October, I planned to wait a while before opening it. For anyone who's interested, you can still buy this at Costco for $98. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
 Posts: 307
 | | 06-18-2005 08:10 PM |
| thanks for the update. mine are sleeping and i don't plan on opening any for a while. my mags will be sleeping even longer. i can't wait for the 02, i am sure that will be another big hit in the wallet  | | | |
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texaswino  Barrel Sampler
 Posts: 2184
 | | 06-19-2005 01:38 AM |
| If you have several,  Go ahead adn open one now Anthony... | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Sorter
 Posts: 307
 | | 06-19-2005 04:06 AM |
| i have 6 750's and 3 1.5's and i am in no hurry to open them. believe it or not i actually have quite a bit of patience.  | | | |
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David Sullivan  Barrel Sampler
 Posts: 2276
 | | 06-19-2005 05:50 AM |
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believe it or not i actually have quite a bit of patience.
What, I don't belive it. | | | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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