Bradley Molzen
Bayonne, NJ
Wine Lover
Posts:4986
 | | 01/16/2004 1:35 AM |
| Once upon a time someone posted a wine color wheel, but for the life of me I can't find it or google for it, and I'm a damn good googler!
Any info?
Also, anyone have a link they really like that has every single grape used for making wine? | |
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12211
| | 01/16/2004 2:28 AM |
| | I think it was davidn or Eric White. | |
Joe
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love_cab_chard
Master of Wine
Posts:12468
| | 01/16/2004 2:51 AM |
| | Rev: I have one of those. Can get you a copy when I see you next. Remind me, please... | | | |
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Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts:9210
| | 01/16/2004 3:08 AM |
| | Wasn't me, AFAIK | | | |
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Bradley Molzen
Bayonne, NJ
Wine Lover
Posts:4986
| | 01/16/2004 5:00 AM |
| | Well, I just need the names I suppose... I found a bunch of lists.. but none seem all inclusive so far. | |
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NorCalVinoLover
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2202
| | 01/16/2004 3:09 PM |
| Doesthis help at all ?
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 01/16/2004 4:21 PM |
| My post was the "aroma wheel" that NCVL has posted above. If you are talking about the "color" of grapes or wine I have never seen such a thing. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
When I first started tasting wine the aroma wheel was a great help. I still use it when I am stumped on an aroma. Only problem with the aroma wheel is that it doesn't include all of the aromas like "new tennis balls" or "tyco plastic". | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 01/16/2004 4:32 PM |
| If it is the "aroma wheel" you are looking for let me tell you one of the most interesting wine education classes I have ever taken. Believe it or not, it is offered by Mondavi Winery.
Quote:
The Essence Tour & Tasting
Tuesdays at 10 a.m. -- also Mondays & Tuesdays at 2 p.m., seasonally
This three-hour adventure explores the sensory evaluation of wine. Offered throughout the year, the Essence Tour & Tasting unveils the mysteries of aromatic essences commonly associated with red and white wines such as green apple, leather, peach, smoke, pineapple and oak. The tour and tasting focus on the influences of soil, climate and the artful hand of the winemaker in developing the nuances of Robert Mondavi wines. The Essence Tour & Tasting is limited to 8 persons. The tariff is $35 per person.
If this is the same course I took several years ago it is fantastic. The guide had gone out early that morning and picked fresh flowers and the like for smelling. Along with the flowers she had things like chocolate chips, coca cola, all different kinds of berries; over 50 different essesences that she put in wine glasses around the room. The challange was to nose different wines and then go around to the different stations and pick out the essesence. Really it was a real live aroma wheel. Really helped me at the time to get a hold of aromas in a very objective way.
Mondavi Classes
Now I am not presently a big fine of Mondavi wine at the moment but this class pertains to really any and all wines. | | | |
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Stefania Wine
San Jose, CA
Grape Puncher
Posts:725
| | 01/16/2004 6:08 PM |
| Revlis,
There are something like 6000+ different types of grapes used for wine and I believe ofer 1000 Vitis Vinifera used. And those numbers are probably conservative. I believe there are a few sites that list them all, but they are a massive pain usually to sort through.
UC Davis has their 2003-2004 dormant list out at:
http://fpms.ucdavis.edu/Grape/RegisteredGrapeList.pdf
Which is pretty inclusive of things planted in California. | |
Paul Romero - Owner/Winemaker Stefania Wine
www.stefaniawine.com | |
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kpak
Alaska
Wine Thief
Posts:2951
| | 01/16/2004 6:22 PM |
| I've never seen a color wheel either, other than the aroma wheel. But there is this little guide booklet that does have a color chart...
http://www.essentialwinetastingguide.com/
I bought one of these at a winery last year. It's kinda cute. I don't think I paid much more than $5 for it. | |
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits...
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wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts:12211
| | 01/16/2004 6:51 PM |
| Oh well. I guessed wrong on both accounts. At least you guys know I am fallible after all. | |
Joe
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shaferguy91
Germantown TN
Wine Bottler
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 01/18/2004 12:03 AM |
| shaferguy91,
That's a good one to print out on a color printer. | | | |
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Bradley Molzen
Bayonne, NJ
Wine Lover
Posts:4986
| | 01/20/2004 4:35 AM |
| LOL. I know there are clones and what not.. I'm only entering in the major varietals into the database.
Just ONE Chardonnay, just ONE pinot noir, etc.
Great link though... I can sort out the duplicates easily enough. THanks.
Oh, and yes.. .it's a grape COLOR wheel. Maybe more of a graph than a wheel... I remember it vividly but can not for the life of me find it now. | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15756
| | 01/20/2004 4:43 AM |
| Ya got me  | | | |
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Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts:9210
| | 01/20/2004 3:36 PM |
| | Rev, what you remember vividly I seem to remember vaguely - can you put a time frame around when you saw it? | | | |
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Bradley Molzen
Bayonne, NJ
Wine Lover
Posts:4986
| | 01/21/2004 5:42 AM |
| Eric, how's your.. um... vacation?? going... hehehe.
Gosh, this must've been within my first six months of joining WS. So 1 1/2 to 2 years ago.......
The colors were lined up in rows... with a gradual change in color, and each color listing what grape the color represented. | |
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Eric White
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts:9210
| | 01/21/2004 3:50 PM |
| Rev, we went into deliberation late yesterday, I am hopefully we will reach a verdict today.
I'll keep thinkin' on this one... | | | |
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Tim
Barrel Filler
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