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Doc

London, UK

Grape Puncher
Posts:730

01/01/2007 4:45 PM
Sorry for the post without TNs per se... Patricia, Anil, and I just spent 10 wonderful days in South Africa Winelands. We visited, what I label as, the better/best SA wineries IMO currently. We tasted a handful of new and old vintages at each winery. If anyone is interested in detailed notes on any of the wineries and what was tasted specifically, let me know. We visited: Rust en Vrede De Trafford Boekenhoutskloof Waterford Ernie Els Uva Mira Grande Provence Villafonte Rustenburg Meerlust Tokara Doc

Fredric

Grape Truck Driver
Posts:26

01/26/2007 12:56 PM
Hi Doc, I’m fairly new in wines and I like South African wines a lot especially the Shiraz. Although I recently bought some Vergelegen cabernet I have yet to try. Of the ones that You have visited lately I have only tried Boekenhoutskloof (Porcupine Ridge line) and Waterford. I’m very interested in suggestions about and tastingnotes of the different wines, preferably these six as they are the ones available in Sweden. Rust en Vrede Boekenhoutskloof Waterford Ernie Els Meerlust Tokara /Fredric

Doc

London, UK

Grape Puncher
Posts:730

02/02/2007 3:13 PM
Hi Fedric, Sorry for the delay in responding as I am always on the road for work. Rust en Vrede--go for the shiraz and estate--older vintages can be excellent Boekenhoutskloof--go for the boekenhoutslook line (higher); yes PR is a lower line and not worth it in my thinking; for the Boe line, go for the cab and shiraz; the 2000 cab is excellent currently; these wines are ageable and develop wonderful secondary notes; Waterford--they make lower lines as well (i.e. Pecan Stream)--not worth it; the 2003 Waterford Cab and 2003 Shiraz (Kevin Arnold) are safe bets and worth the money Ernie Els--multiple lines with Ernie Els being the most costly; the 2003 Els costs $80 here, but the bottle we cracked was sour and green even with 2 days of decanting...not worth the money Meerlust--main staple of SA on the higher end scale; wonderful chard (2005), decent Rubicon (the flagship) with age (young Rubicon's can be askward); some like their pinot, but I do not; Tokara--the best of the bunch is the red blend from Stellebosch; the first 3 bottles of 2003 were excellent, the last 2 have been off; the 2004 is now available; skip the whites... Doc

jaimetown

DC area

Wine Labeler
Posts:3504

02/02/2007 10:00 PM
Hey Doc, how were the Vilafontes?

Doc

London, UK

Grape Puncher
Posts:730

02/15/2007 9:50 PM
Wonderful wines in 2004, but I think 2003s are still better. Doc

Bradley Molzen User is Offline

Bayonne, NJ

Wine Lover
Posts:4991

02/21/2007 2:28 PM
Thanks for the post Doc. I've mostly enjoyed the Rust en Vrede wines, but never really considered many as "excellent." Do you think the quality/wine making is improving overall?

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PourQue

Barrel Racker
Posts:1812

05/23/2007 11:12 PM
I spent ten days at Singita in South Africa this month and had some great wines.... Vergelegen (cab and white bordeaux blend) Ciderburg - V Generations Hartenburg - Gravelly Hill Shiraz Rust en Vrede (sp?) '99 Peter Barlow Graham Beck - '93 BdB, best non french sparkling wine I've ever had, GREAT Boek... Sauvingon Blanc - very good On the low end, Durbanville Hills Sauvignon Blanc. I purchase four assorted cases of these and had them shipped back.

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