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09/12/2006 1:11 AM  
Unscrewed a bottle of D'Arenberg Hermit Crab last night. Returning to it tonight, after a night in the fridge, reveals a wine that isn't much different than it was when I first opened it.

Any experience with how well the screw caps keep vs the corks?
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10/04/2006 9:52 PM  
i'd be curious how the new glass corks compare as well
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10/10/2006 6:33 PM  
??? Not sure I'm familiar with these. Who is using them?
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10/11/2006 1:37 AM  
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??? Not sure I'm familiar with these. Who is using them?




Whitehall Lane is using the glass corks on their Reserve Cab. Nice package... the jury is out how it will age.

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10/11/2006 2:25 PM  
Some 2004 Weinbach is closed with the glass cork also
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10/12/2006 10:49 PM  
sineann from oregon just bottled their 05 resonance pinots using them
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11/13/2006 10:42 PM  
Once you open the bottle, the process of oxidation starts. All you can do is slow it down by: 1) reducing the amount of air coming in contact with the wine (various methods exist like vacuum pumps and inert gas) and 2) refrigerating it.

For long term storage, screw caps don't breathe like regular corks.
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11/21/2006 8:29 PM  
Am I correct in assuming there is no need for storing screw caps on their side...?
Mr. Loring ?

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11/22/2006 8:37 AM  
They are easier to stack if stored on their side.... but I don't suppose that is the reason you were asking about.

Matt Kramer says that there isn't any need to store corked bottles on their side.

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11/24/2006 7:12 PM  
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Matt Kramer says that there isn't any need to store corked bottles on their side.




You mean "bottles with corks".

Of course there is no need to store a corked bottle at all

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11/24/2006 8:28 PM  
oops, yes, I totally 'screwed' that up...
I meant storing bottles with corks versus screwtops and the need to store screw tops on their sides.

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12/03/2006 7:19 AM  
I feel that we are at a point where history might be being made. Screw caps are so new, that there are very few "age worthy" wines being bottled with them. I have bought some wines in screwcaps that I think will age, and it will be interesting to try them in 5-10 years. Imagine unscrewing a 20 year old bottle of Bordeaux.

The times, they are a changin'

PS: If anyone has any ageworthy screwcap recommendations, I'm interested in cellaring a few more.
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12/09/2006 12:10 AM  
With long term storage, screw-capped wines tend to suffer from reduction. But, this can be addressed easily enough by adjusting the winemaking.
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