cmsyrah
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 | | 07/03/2005 4:19 AM |
| My understanding is there is no question too stupid to ask in this thread so I am going for it:
I have read about KC vineyard in here but not any specific varietal. Today in a store I saw the label on a KC cab that said, predominately , across the top of the lable, "UnOaked" I began to wonder.
What the heck did that mean?
I know that most wines are supposidly (davidn...it is that bad speeling that goes alonsyeside mensa iq's  )better with age and oak barrels in the equation, so why would KC vineyards advertise that hers/his were not? (thanks ojeff)
Which component adds to the advertising advantage? OR do some labels go for the masses instead of the product? Wait. I know the answer to that. Before coming in here, my last wine was swizzle with a contest for a wet t-shirt event on the back side of the label 
I am sure it comes down to which wine any certain person's hands start shaking when they open the bottle, sniff; swirl and sip.
Seanr...unless chards are red, I could swear it was a cab. I'll double check. But my bet would be that you are correct and I was in a hurry. My confusion was concerning the "Unoaked" on the label.
Still 
So confused!
Oh yeah, I won the contest. | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15713
| | 07/03/2005 4:57 AM |
| My dear spellor,
The wine in question is undoubtedely  a Chardonnay, No?
99% (well 97.4%) of Chardonnaies in the world are aged in oak. Some crazies out there swear that Chards aged in oak are bad and prefer to have the wine aged in stainless steel so that it shows more of the charakter of the grape and not the oak  .
Different winemakers use different amounts of "oak" by blending the different barrells of the wine. A "new" barrel imparts more oak into the mix than does a two year old barrel. A three year old barrel pretty much has no oaking effect of the juice. So if a wine says on the label "50% new oak" it means that half the blend was in a new oak barrel and half came out of older barrels or stainless steel.
LikeIsaid... There are very very few wines out there with no oak at all. The most popular one is from Melville Vineyards down in the Santa Rita Hills. Their name for the stuff is "Inox". Personally I don't like it that way. I like to have a little woody in the wine.
Oh, yeah: Congratulations! Did you get a trophy? And like I said in the other post... any pictures? | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15713
| | 07/03/2005 5:00 AM |
| Whooops; I just reread your post. A Cabernet with no oak. That's more redickulus. That's worser.
Culd someone else splain me about an unoaked Cab. | | | |
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cmsyrah
Grape Picker
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| | 07/03/2005 5:19 AM |
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F I coud, I woud. My simpel qestin was to ask to diferance in an unoak versas an oak, I prsuumed yu, wit a seler, wood have ansirs. Aftr al, thoews thet hav celars mst no truth?
y wood u have a seler othrwize?
sory, no potograffs 2day. purrhaps aftr a little cymus i cn be convinsed.  | | | |
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cmsyrah
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| | 07/03/2005 5:23 AM |
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cimply maks no cents. | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15713
| | 07/03/2005 5:26 AM |
| The problm is... it makes perfect sense to me.  | | | |
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts:4877
| | 07/03/2005 4:32 PM |
| | i believe the kim in " kim crawford " is a he. | | | |
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Pete Marsh
Left Coast
Barrel Filler
Posts:1466
| | 07/03/2005 4:37 PM |
| Kim is a he. I met him in 2003 in NZ.
Pete | |
Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. | |
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cmsyrah
Grape Picker
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| | 07/03/2005 4:44 PM |
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See my original post w/edits.
Ya know, once you meet a Kim-they all look the same. | | | |
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David Sullivan
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2276
| | 07/05/2005 4:49 AM |
| Quote:
Before coming in here, my last wine was swizzle with a contest for a wet t-shirt event on the back side of the label
Oh yeah, I won the contest.
Can we see the winner's picture??? | | | |
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cmsyrah
Grape Picker
Posts:0
| | 07/06/2005 2:10 AM |
| Quote:
Quote:
Before coming in here, my last wine was swizzle with a contest for a wet t-shirt event on the back side of the label
Oh yeah, I won the contest.
Can we see the winner's picture???
Well yeah......
Normally I would show them to you except that after eleventy-two-four Swizzles I forgot who took the pictures. In fact, I forgot who I was.
I think you can find them on the "Girls Gone Bad" video. circa: 1967. | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15713
| | 07/06/2005 10:57 AM |
| Quote:
I think you can find them on the "Girls Gone Bad" video. circa: 1967.
Hey, I was there!
Video... 1967... That's right around the time that BetaMax was just coming out. | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11841
| | 07/06/2005 1:01 PM |
| | david... didn't the original BetaMax cost $1000-$1200 back then? | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15713
| | 07/06/2005 10:42 PM |
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david... didn't the original BetaMax cost $1000-$1200 back then?
No way!
It was more than that. Actually the first Sony BetaMax came out in 1976 and sold for $1300. The first BetaMax to break the $1000 mark was in 1977; it was a Sanyo. The only problem with the Sanyo is that, like we experience with Screagle, one couldn't get them.
The $1300 BetaMax didn't have a clock or timer. The big deal when VHS came out was it had a clock and programmable time built in; a revolutionary feature. | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11841
| | 07/06/2005 10:48 PM |
| | So what would $1300 be in 2005 dollars??? | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15713
| | 07/06/2005 11:06 PM |
| LOL.
Probably about $400-$500 bucks.
Today a VCR (if you can find one at a dealer for sale) sell for $50-$70 bucks.
A decent CD/DVD player today is $70-$90 bucks.
A DVDR is a couple of hundred.
The Tivo is hot at around $100 ($1000 for HD) plus $50-$100 a month. | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11841
| | 07/06/2005 11:33 PM |
| | No, david. What I meant was... if it cost $1300 then, that would probably equate to $5000 or more now!!! | | | |
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