jeffkahn
Happy Valley, PA
Grape Sorter
Posts:394
 | | 04/16/2005 6:22 PM |
| I will be opening up some 1975 California Cabs for my wife's birthday in a few weeks. Should I decant and/or filter these wines? If I should filter, what is the best technique for it?
Thanks for the help!
Jeff Kahn | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11834
| | 04/16/2005 6:51 PM |
| | I would stand them up now, and carefully decant to remove the sediment just before serving. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:12891
| | 04/16/2005 8:10 PM |
| | the above advice is best. i should add that as a precaution a decanter funnel with steel mesh is nice. i would never use any type of paper filter. if done properly the sediment will be minimal if any at all. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
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| | 04/16/2005 8:15 PM |
| | Agree 100% with my older brother, budman. | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11834
| | 04/16/2005 8:30 PM |
| Hey! Next offline, let's bring birth certificates!!!  | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:11169
| | 04/16/2005 9:35 PM |
| | Can you read hieroglyphics? | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:12891
| | 04/16/2005 10:03 PM |
| | did they have birth certificates for either of you back then or did your families just vouch for you? | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2042
| | 04/17/2005 12:39 AM |
| They both have birth certificates.
(They're on papyrus scrolls)
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11834
| | 04/17/2005 3:38 AM |
| | Actualy, they are on stone tablets!!! | | | |
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jeffkahn
Happy Valley, PA
Grape Sorter
Posts:394
| | 04/17/2005 5:51 AM |
| | Where do you get such filters? | | | |
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ChangeMe
Barrel Sampler
Posts:2042
| | 04/17/2005 9:36 AM |
| | HERE are a few choices. | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:12891
| | 04/17/2005 2:59 PM |
| Quote:
They both have birth certificates.
(They're on papyrus scrolls)
didn't i read about them one day...something called the dead sea scrolls or something  | | | |
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Pete Marsh
Left Coast
Barrel Filler
Posts:1459
| | 04/17/2005 3:27 PM |
| I do NOT recommend that you even think about using a filter. With the age of the wine, a filter could strip away a portion of the remaining fruit. Follow Bud's advice.
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Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. | |
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jeffkahn
Happy Valley, PA
Grape Sorter
Posts:394
| | 04/19/2005 7:36 PM |
| | Thanks for all the advice. Keep your fingers crossed that they work out... | | | |
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jeffkahn
Happy Valley, PA
Grape Sorter
Posts:394
| | 04/19/2005 7:55 PM |
| | Another quick newbie question - do you need to stand the whites (rieslings and sauternes) as well as the reds? | | | |
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Budman
Master of Wine
Posts:11834
| | 04/19/2005 10:06 PM |
| | I doubt it. For the most part, whites have little or no sediment. | | | |
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skwid
Wine Connoisseur
Posts:5452
| | 04/19/2005 10:22 PM |
| | Whites are typically already filtered so they look pleasing. For sweet wines this is pretty much a requirement as if there is any active yeasts or bacteria the fermentation could restart and cause spoilage of the wine. | | | |
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jeffkahn
Happy Valley, PA
Grape Sorter
Posts:394
| | 04/20/2005 12:57 AM |
| | Thanks! | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
Master Sommelier
Posts:15711
| | 04/22/2005 2:15 AM |
| I'm late coming to this thread but I will stick in my 2 cents.
For God's sake NEVER filter any wine! NEVER!
You gotta sit the bottle up for 24 hours and then decant it with a strong light behind the neck so that you can see when the sediment starts to come out. I also suggest that when you pull an old bottle that might have a lot of sediment one should mark the side of the bottle that it has been resting on. When it is decanted keep that side down. The sediment should drop to the bottom and will not come out over the curve of the neck until the very end. You stop before that.
Funnels... metallic funnels... NO WAY. Wine is like Pizza: it should never be touched by anything metallic! No knives, no forks, no funnels... unless the funnel is GLASS!
A glass funnel is the only funnel I will use, period!
If one has a lot of wines with sediment in them I would suggest the purchase of a nice, strong wine cradle. It can be a sexy presentation (especially if you have a scantily clad member of the opposite sex turn the handle slowly <where did that come from?>).
Wine Decanting Cradle | | | |
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ChangeMe
Master of Wine
Posts:12891
| | 04/22/2005 3:31 AM |
| david,
where do i get a glass pizza cutter??? 
btw do you have a decanting cradle and if so do you like it? i am thinking of getting one someday and was just wondering if this is one of those wine purchases that really push one over the geek edge. | | | |
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