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03-01-2005 12:49 AM  
Headed off to Anaheim (California) for a conference next week - potential opportunity for a customer dinner at a nice restaurant. Question is: Are there some vc-approved restaurants we should visit? (I am hearing that there are none!)

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03-01-2005 12:54 AM  
two places comes to my mind:

1- Napa Rose at Disneyland
2- The Hobbit (pre fix one seating per night with very nice wine cellar in the basement where you start with starter) city of orange
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03-01-2005 01:07 AM  
Napa Rose is great. It's in the Grand Californian Hotel at Disney's California Adventure. It's actually very easy to get to - you don't have to go into the park or deal with the regular Disneyland Parking. The best way to go is to take Disneyland Drive north from Katella (follow signs for Downtown Disney). There will be a parking entrance for the Grand Californian hotel on your right hand side (east side of the street). Valet parking is free for 3 or 4 hours with validation from the restaurant.

The food is great, the wine list is killer, and the service is awesome. Almost all the wait staff has been through a 2 to 3 day wine service program. And most of them really know their stuff. The guy who heads the program, Michael Jordan (no relation), has done an amazing job. Great stemware too.
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03-01-2005 01:08 AM  
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Headed off to Anaheim (California) for a conference next week - potential opportunity for a customer dinner at a nice restaurant. Question is: Are there some vc-approved restaurants we should visit? (I am hearing that there are none!)

Thanks in advance.

vtyro




I'm not going to be much help, as I don't usually dine out in Anaheim too often. When I do go there it is usually to meet up with others attending a conference and ESPN Zone, in Downtown Disney, ends up being the default choice. I've wanted to try Napa Rose which is also in Downtown Disney but never have.

I've heard some good things about Mr. Stox but again I've never been there.

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03-01-2005 04:20 PM  
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Napa Rose is great......
The food is great, the wine list is killer, and the service is awesome.




Wow - this seems to be a hot one. Will try and get reservations.

Mr. Stox sounds intriguing as well - Zagat seems to like their "new American cuisine".

Thanks a ton! Will post how this goes ....

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03-01-2005 06:44 PM  
I am not a fan of Mr Stox, I am not saying I have not had a good experience there, but I would say it lacks consistency, which for me, is very important when dining. If you are willing to go 3 or 4 miles out of Anaheim, try the Cellar in Fullerton, on Harbor Blvd which is a main street, very easy to find. I highly recommend this if you are looking for an intimate quality dining experience. Napa Rose is good with a wine list that could take you a few hours to get through but just be warned you may be dining amongst little mouse ears....and at times the disruption that comes with little mouse ears!
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03-01-2005 06:53 PM  
With the caveat that it was ten years ago, and things can change, I also had a wonderful meal at The Cellar. I dined alone and was treated very respectfully, wasn't rushed, and when I sent the last third of my purchased bottle to the kitchen (I had to get up and do work the following day), I was comped a dessert and a dessert wine. Service like this always sticks with me.
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03-01-2005 07:29 PM  
Holy smokes this brings back memorys of when I was a kid growing up in Orange County. The Cellar used to be the best restaurant around while the Hobbit was right up there. We sent my mother to the Cellar for some significant birthday and she really enjoyed it. Now this was something like 20 years ago....
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03-01-2005 11:19 PM  
In an area which is inundated with TGIF, Applebee's and Chili type restaurants not to mention Mouse stuff at every turn, the Cellar is still one of the best dining experiences and is most suitable for business (714) 525-5682, closed Sunday and Monday. As a matter of fact, I would steer away from Napa Rose if this is a business dinner because of the mouse factor as it is family-friendly.
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03-02-2005 09:27 PM  
I'm looking at this with interest since I will be going there next month and will probably go out for dinner on a sunday.
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03-02-2005 09:32 PM  
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If you are willing to go 3 or 4 miles out of Anaheim, try the Cellar in Fullerton, on Harbor Blvd which is a main street, very easy to find. I highly recommend this if you are looking for an intimate quality dining experience.




That sounds great - Napa Rose was eliminated since the customer is going there the previous night.

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03-02-2005 10:37 PM  
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If you are going to be in the area but not limited to Anaheim, many other options are within a 10 mile radius-I believe The Cellar is the only one closed on Sundays.
a few other options:
Chat Noir-Costa Mesa (diverse list, corkage is I believe $15)
Pinot Provence- Costa Mesa (part of the Patina Group, no corkage fee)
The Cat & The Custar Cup-Whittier/ La Habra (very nice list, very BYO friendly, $10 corkage)
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03-03-2005 12:56 AM  
PE, thanks. 10 miles is no a big deal in LA.
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03-04-2005 02:45 PM  
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PE, thanks. 10 miles is no a big deal in LA.




Except that it takes an hour to drive.
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03-14-2005 10:02 PM  
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Thanks for all your recommendations - we ended up at the Cellar in Fullerton and what an experience!

The wait-staff was stiff, didn't smile once (except when the check came), and pushed their favorite dishes on us even after we expressed no interest in particular dishes. (Example "Sir, you must try the scallops", Me: "Don't much care for scallops", Waiter: "But, sir, it is the best appetizer", Me: "Can you recommend another appetizer?", Waiter: "How about the seared scallops?". I am not kidding).

Wine selection is a unique experience. We ask for the sommelier and the waiter starts recommending wines to us. One of the guests thinks a Pinot would be a good starting wine. Waiter (who should be calling the sommelier by now): "You must get the Acacia - the Carneros region is very good". We once again ask for the sommelier. Waiter, posing as sommelier, dparts. After a long wait, an older gentleman arrives.

He is visibly upset about what the waiter has told him. [Turns out one of our guests has heard the waiter, in hushed tones, complain to this new fellow that we want a Pinot but will not accept a Carneros!]. Now this new guy (I refuse to call him a sommelier, you will see why in a second) starts by recommending Oregon for Pinot - that's it. No other choices - "If you like Pinot's you must look at some of the Oregon pinots". One guest: "I am not too fond of the earthy flavors of Oregon pinots - do you have one that is not too earthy?". Old man looks like he is going to pop a vein. Another guest wonders if we should consider an aged Burgundy. And that really pushes the old man over the edge ("they say they don't like earthy and they want burgundy?", he is probably thinking). He says:"You should go for a fruity California Cab!" and reaches out to the wine list in my hand and starts flipping the pages to show me the great cabs.

My guest gets annoyed and asks me to "just pick a CA pinot". I am still being polite to the old man. Having heard good reviews about Sea Smoke, I ask him for his opinion on the Sea Smoke Southing. He doesn't know since "the wine has only been on their list for the last few days!"

We go back and forth between the Southing and a Rochioli Reserve and the old man says the Southing is a light-bodied wine which my guest will not like! (How he suddenly remembers the wine he has professed ignorance about two minutes ago is beyond me). So we start with a 1998 Rochioli Reserve. Nice wine - everyone enjoys it. The dinner seems to be on the right track , until .....

It's time to order the entrees (we have delayed this until we have placed the wine order)... and its time that somebody MUST have the Kobe Beef. You see, it is the best beef and it is hand-fed and it is from Japan, etc. Our guest wants a clarification, "is this authentic Kobe beef from Japan?" or "is this local beef fed a la Kobe from Japan?" (Now I think we are annoying the heck out of the waiter) He comes back and explains it's the latter and hence the entree is only $34.95, a REAL Kobe beef would be at least twice as much. His disdain for this group is now evident for all to see.

The Kobe beef is panned (too salty, not done properly, etc), the duck I ordered is just so-so, but the Salmon, the peppered steak and the lamb shanks other guests ordered are quite good.

Dessert turns out to be good - the souffles get compliments from those who try them, and I get raspberries and cream thrust upon me only to find out that they are out of raspberries and will strawberries be alright?

I must admit this group of visitors probably didn't hit it off from the beginning and we must have pissed the waitstaff off for some reason. I cannot pinpoint anything specific, but we were not one of the well-liked guests that night.

Long diatribe, but bottom line - the 1998 Rochioli Res. was good, followed by a 1997 Ristow Quinta de Pedras, which was drinking fine (being forced to give this a rating by my guests, I venture a 91-92).

Aside: During the conference, some of our Cellar guests dined at Mr. Stox (good reviews) and The Hobbit (rave reviews). The Cellar disappointed.

vtyro

p.s.: The Cellar has different wine glasses displayed as one enters, but our Pinots were served in wine goblets - I did not have the nerve to ask for a swap by this time. The Cab was served in proper stemware.
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03-14-2005 10:58 PM  
So sorry you had a bad experience, I despise pretention coupled with ignorance!
But, it sounds like that is the pairing they specialize in!
Official boycott now in order!

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03-15-2005 12:44 AM  
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Official boycott now in order!




All I would say is visit at own risk - I am sure others in the restaurant, being served at the same time, were quite enjoying their dinners!

Maybe it was us???

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03-23-2005 11:46 PM  
Thanks PE. Looking forward to my brief trip to LA. Actually, we were there last weekend to visit a friend (and family) who was here from Singapore. They stayed at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. I was disappointed that nothing on the inside looked like what you see in Pretty Women. I guess they only showed the outside and the rest was shot in the studios. I thought I would see some "beautiful people" there, but I guess wealth does not equate to looks or taste.
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11-26-2005 06:13 PM  
We decided middle of last week to go do a few days in Disneyland.

I can say that except for one thing the food in the park is disastrous. We didn't go to Club 33 or the adjoining "fine dining" restaurant in New Orleans square so I have no comment there. In general though the burgers, dogs, tacos, churros, they sell at outrageous prices doesn't even earn as good a rating as "junk" imo.

The one thing we did enjoy was in New Orleans Square. The Gumbo was delicious and it was authentic with quite a bit of okra.

I will give a "big-time 3-star" recomendation for Napa Rose. This is not in the park proper. It is in a hotel that is located in "DownTown Disney". It was a real treat to eat in a "real" restaurant after all the crap that was served in the park. Only problem is that along the the * * * comes $$$. Cost for four, including 20% tip and $180 of wine, was 20 cents short of $500. Not outrageos but not cheap either.
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11-26-2005 07:24 PM  
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I can say that except for one thing the food in the park is disastrous. We didn't go to Club 33 or the adjoining "fine dining" restaurant in New Orleans square so I have no comment there. In general though the burgers, dogs, tacos, churros, they sell at outrageous prices doesn't even earn as good a rating as "junk" imo.


The adjoining "fine dining" restaurant is the Bleu Bayou which overlooks a section of the Pirates of the Caribbean ride. To get into "Club 33" you need to be a member. There were originally just 33 members, each of the vendors in the park (Carnation, Coca Cola, ...). The Club 33 is the second story of New Orleans Square and has its own kitchen and staff. For all the other food establishments in New Orleans square (Bleu Bayou, Cafe Orleans, and the French Market Restaurant) are all hosted out of a kitchen which is between the two levels of the Pirates of the Caribbean.
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