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wineismylife 
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12722
 | | 06-18-2005 09:14 PM |
| * BUMP * Doing a little TJ styled dumspter diving. Saw a couple of people reading this thread and it made me laugh.  | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
| Dave Tong
Santa Clara, CA
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1336
| | 06-18-2005 09:56 PM |
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I only use a stopper if we're travelling with the decanted wine.
Doesn't that violate those damn stupid open container laws? | | | http://scmwine.blogspot.com - My wine blog.<br>http://scmwine.wikispaces.com - your guide to the Santa Cruz Mountains and Santa Clara Valley<br> | |
| Winetex
Austin, Texas
Master of Wine
Posts: 11423
| | 06-18-2005 11:16 PM |
| Hmm, I thought I was the only one who did this.  | | | |
| wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12722
| | 06-18-2005 11:19 PM |
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| Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
| winebrat
Sacramento, Ca.
Wine Lover
Posts: 4571
| | 06-19-2005 12:23 AM |
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Save for the Pinot, those times look reasonable to me. Burgundians do not decant Pinot. I will decant young ones but after that I pour them.
While in Aspen a few weeks ago I found out that they decant everything including whites. It was the first time I ever saw someone decant Burgundy that was not a baby. They have something like 20%-30% less oxygen at that elevation. MBansek might know more about the oxygen level than I. | | | "Everyday is worthy of a glass of sparkling wine" - Andrea Immer MS | |
| Sacred Cow
Wine Thief
Posts: 2764
| | 06-19-2005 05:05 AM |
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Save for the Pinot, those times look reasonable to me. Burgundians do not decant Pinot. I will decant young ones but after that I pour them.
While in Aspen a few weeks ago I found out that they decant everything including whites. It was the first time I ever saw someone decant Burgundy that was not a baby. They have something like 20%-30% less oxygen at that elevation. MBansek might know more about the oxygen level than I.
I know absolutely nothing about oxygen, especially when in the mountains.
Seriously, I have often wondered about the lack of oxygen up here, and its effect on decanting methods and times. My gut, from comparing notes with others, says the wines do need more decant time here, though that may just be my palate.
Mike | | | |
| winebrat
Sacramento, Ca.
Wine Lover
Posts: 4571
| | 06-19-2005 06:21 AM |
| I thought you probably experienced this. The Somm and MS at Little Nell decant EVERYTHING. | | | "Everyday is worthy of a glass of sparkling wine" - Andrea Immer MS | |
| Stephen D.
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 678
| | 06-29-2005 06:43 PM |
| Topless Decanting??? While not recommended, it is certainly safer than "Topless Sabering"  | | | |
| Edward Bowers
Palm Beach Gardens
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2072
| | 06-29-2005 09:44 PM |
| No stopper.
Only use stopper if need to transport | | | |
| Dave
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5832
| | 09-13-2005 06:57 PM |
| Wow, I was using the "Who's Online feature and there were 6 people (probably 20%) reading this thread! | | | |
| wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12722
| | 09-13-2005 08:44 PM |
| Probably because I posted a link over on WS to this thread. | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
| Dave
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5832
| | 09-13-2005 10:35 PM |
| Trying to lure the rest of them over? The Winetex/WIML exchange is classic though. | | | |
| Pool Boy
Laurl, MD (DC suburb)
Master of Wine
Posts: 13801
| | 09-14-2005 12:46 PM |
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Probably because I posted a link over on WS to this thread.
Pimping the site eh?  | | | www.roguefood.com -- www.cellartracker.com | |
| wineismylife
Arlington, TX
Master of Wine
Posts: 12722
| | 09-14-2005 01:20 PM |
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Probably because I posted a link over on WS to this thread.
Pimping the site eh?
Either that or pointing out the lack of original content.  | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
| "D"
Grape Truck Driver
Posts: 40
| | 09-16-2005 08:14 PM |
| Yes Joe I agree with you. These time frames are basiclly correct.
D | | | |
| David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30967
| | 07-09-2006 11:27 PM |
| What I did yesterday... shoot holes in it! Yesterday I held a charity tasting in my home. I had a dozen people and we tasted 29 different wines. Here are my thoughts on decanting these wines (which I didn't). I'd really be interested if you agree or disagree with what I did. Also I really don't know whether just opening a bottle and let it stand does anything in the way or aeration (I suspect it doesn't). Quote:
Flight A... 4:30pm
2003 Kistler Chard, McCrae
2003 Peter Michael Chard, cuvee Indignene
2003 Aubert Chard, Ritchie
2004 Peter Michael SB, Midi
2005 Inman Family Pinot Gris, RRV
2004 Pax Viognier, Aphrodite
I left these in the cellar unopened until 3:00. I opened them and left them in the cellar to poor at 55°. I didn't do this but maybe I should have double-decanted the Pax. It really didn't show very well. Would it be fair to double-decant the Pax and not the others?
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Flight B... 5:15pm
2003 Kistler Pinot Noir, Kistler Vyd
2004 August West Pinot Noir, Rosella's
2003 Kosta Browne Pinot Noir, Koplen Vyd
2003 Felton Road Pinot Noir, Block 3, Aus
2003 Loring Pinot Noir, The Llama
2003 Sine Qua Non Pinot Noir "Omega", Shea Vyd, Ore.
I took these out of the cellar around 12noon (serving temp was good). I un-corked these at 3:30. The first four bottles were singing. The Llama and the Omega however were rather blah if not just plain bad. ???
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Flight C... 6:00pm
1997 Peter Michael Red Wine "Les Pavots", Knight's Valley
1997 Vineyard 29 Cabernet Sauvignon, Grace Family Vyd
1997 Harlan Estate Red Wine, Napa
1997 Dominus Estate Red Wine, Napa
1997 Philip Togni Estate Cabernet Sauvignon, Spring Mtn
1997 Joseph Phelps Red Wine "Insignia", Napa
I took these out of the cellar at noon also. I didn't open these until 4:30 thinking that this past year most of the '97s I've had were best when popt and poured. As it was they were open for 1¾ hours. I had thought about double-decanting the Togni at that time but I didn't; Again I ask would that have been fair to the others? The Les Pavots was a tad green (Sonoma Cab) and the Togni, as expected, was really tannic. The others were all really singing... and I mean singing fantastically. Actually of these other four it could have been a three-way tie for first with the Harlan coming in a bit behind.
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Flight D.... 6:45pm
2002 Anomaly Cabernet Sauvignon, Estate, Napa
2001 Bressler Cabernet Sauvignon, St. Helena
2002 Match Vineyard Cabernet Sauvignon, Butterdragon Hill
2002 HL Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon, Herb Lamb Vyd
2002 Jones Family Cabernet Sauvignon, Napa
I opened these around 2:00pm so they stood there for almost seven hours. The Jones was the only one that may have needed more time but the others were very, very good. Bob and Randy, you should be getting another couple of sign-ups on your list.
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Flight E.... 7:00pm
2004 Robert Foley Charbono, Napa Valley
2004 Pax "cuvee Moriah", 73% Grenache
2001 Alban Syrah "Reva", Edna Valley Estate
2002 Martinelli Zinfandel, Jackass Vyd, RRV
2002 Turley Zinfandel, Mead Ranch, Atlas Peak
2000 Turley Petite Syrah (sic), Napa Valley Estate
I opened these bottles around 1:30pm. We might as well thrown everyone of them down the drain except for the Martinelli which was argueably the WOTN. I couldn't believe how good the stuff was. And it was "only" the Jackass; not Jackass Hill. I hate it when this happens... I can't do business with Martinelli. 'Tis a conundrum! | | | |
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