Dave  Wine Connoisseur
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 | | 03-27-2006 10:38 PM |
| So this is a good news/bad news thing? I am happy that I ordered 6 Chardonnays, but sad that I didn't order any pinots. | | | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 | | 03-27-2006 10:51 PM |
| So.... go back and order some!!!  | | | |
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Dave  Wine Connoisseur
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 | | 03-27-2006 11:12 PM |
| I may try as Chardonnay and do exactly that! But wait, is this how you ended up with 38 bottles? | | | |
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wineismylife  Arlington, TX
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 | | 03-28-2006 01:31 AM |
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I may try as Chardonnay and do exactly that! But wait, is this how you ended up with 38 bottles?
You can do a heck of lot worse than loading up 38 bottles of these wines in your cellar. As a matter of fact, it would be easy to do a lot worse than buying 38 bottles of these wines. | | | Joe-----Wine is like potato chips around me...if it's open, it's gone. | |
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Dave  Wine Connoisseur
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 | | 03-28-2006 03:21 AM |
| This is unnerving. WIML is my hero and new mentor for moderation in my wine buying. Must resist. | | | |
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Al_ksyrah 
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 | | 03-28-2006 03:52 AM |
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So this is a good news/bad news thing? I am happy that I ordered 6 Chardonnays, but sad that I didn't order any pinots.
The chard is outstanding, so definitely good news. If you order some pinot, it'll just be more good news. As you know, there will always be wines you want that you don't buy.
But buy the pinot.
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Pool Boy  Laurl, MD (DC suburb) Master of Wine
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 | | 03-28-2006 04:31 PM |
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So.... go back and order some!!!
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 Posts: 23749
 | | 03-28-2006 04:37 PM |
| Two choices... if you didn't already order the maximum allowed, go back to the website, go to Wine Shop, log in and order more.
Otherwise, email Andy and ask him what's available. He is always accommodationg. | | | |
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David Niederauer  Los Gatos, CA
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 | | 03-29-2006 04:13 AM |
| Got a shipment today. I really want to crack open a Chard but I must be patient. | | | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 | | 03-29-2006 09:24 AM |
| David... what's the minimum amount of time you would wait before cracking one. I'm dying to pop an 04 viognier this weekend. Is it too soon? They were delivered 10 days ago. | | | |
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Al_ksyrah 
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 | | 03-29-2006 02:35 PM |
| I think 10 days is generally plenty for a wine to get over travel shock which I believe is overstated provided the wine doesn't have a lot of fine sediment. More important question is when the wine was bottled, since I think bottle shock is more significant than travel shock. The 2004 Peay viognier was doing well at the recent Rhone Rangers tasting, so I'd say you are good to go.
-Al | | | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 | | 03-29-2006 03:16 PM |
| Thanks Al. Sounds good to me. I appreciate it! | | | |
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David Niederauer  Los Gatos, CA
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 | | 04-02-2006 05:23 AM |
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I think 10 days is generally plenty for a wine to get over travel shock which I believe is overstated provided the wine doesn't have a lot of fine sediment. More important question is when the wine was bottled, since I think bottle shock is more significant than travel shock. The 2004 Peay viognier was doing well at the recent Rhone Rangers tasting, so I'd say you are good to go.
-Al
Al, I think "travel shock" is over-played also but I will say that if it is going to happen the place it will happen is in a white wine. White wines imo are much less forgiving to adversity at least when it comes to their taste.
Personally I am over-cautious and usually wait 30 days after receiving (even if purchased from a retail store and brought home by me) before I open anything new.
To tell you the truth I worry about whites and pinots when I drive the 60 miles up to San Francisco for a tasting. I think I am a tad paranoid with this (duh!) as I have never had a wine that had travel shock that I could detect.
I will tell you that "bottle shock" on the other hand is quite real. My first example I can remember was one day I was in Napa bottleing a nice Chardonnay that was one of the most delicious wines I had ever tasted... but I have to disclose the Chardonnay we were drinking was fresh out of a bucket right out of the tank and not bottled. Man it was delicious.
The next day I am at the Ojai Valley Resort and I pop open a bottle of this very same stuff... a Chardonnay that had been bottled about 48 hours previously. It was REALLY AWFUL. It was AS BAD AS IT GETS!
The good new is that the next bottle I opened some two months later was wonderful al over again. Nothing like drinking it out of a bucket but none-the-less very very good. | | | |
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TBird  Park Slope, Brooklyn Master of Wine
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 | | 04-08-2006 11:13 PM |
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a very nice wine, but tonight the color was almost cloudy(unfiltered-like). the flavours weren't "off"(i agree with ALL of jasons descriptors), but i'd have a very hard time agreeing with 94 points.
92? yes.
revisiting this evening, and i'm sticking to my previous impression. which is good, as i re-ordered 6 more!  | | | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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TBird  Park Slope, Brooklyn Master of Wine
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 | | 04-08-2006 11:44 PM |
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TBird... if you got 6 bottles, you're a very lucky man!!! A week ago, Andy said he only had about 5 cases left to sell!!! You da man!!!
sorry, i didn't mean to say i just re-ordered, i re-ordered after my first bottle. i would think they are all gone now? but yes, that in combo, leaves me with 10 left. i'm happy. i am stocking up on GOOD whites to last me this upcoming sticky east coast summer! this and the melville inox were both great choices.
sidenote, when i tried to re-ordered some viogner as well, that was alllllll gone. damn. | | | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 | | 04-08-2006 11:46 PM |
| Be happy with the 10 chards!!! I'm happy with what I have!!!  | | | |
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Skippy  Grape Destemmer
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 | | 04-09-2006 12:08 AM |
| Great wine. I tried this at the Skurnik Tasting in NY. Was showing beautifully. | | | Skippy | |
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Winetex  Austin, Texas
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 | | 04-09-2006 01:19 AM |
| Yup, tasty stuff. TN to come. | | | |
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Pool Boy  Laurl, MD (DC suburb) Master of Wine
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 | | 04-09-2006 02:31 AM |
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TBird... if you got 6 bottles, you're a very lucky man!!! A week ago, Andy said he only had about 5 cases left to sell!!! You da man!!!
sorry, i didn't mean to say i just re-ordered, i re-ordered after my first bottle. i would think they are all gone now? but yes, that in combo, leaves me with 10 left. i'm happy. i am stocking up on GOOD whites to last me this upcoming sticky east coast summer! this and the melville inox were both great choices.
sidenote, when i tried to re-ordered some viogner as well, that was alllllll gone. damn.
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