DukeRiley  McMinnville, OR Wine Labeler
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 | | 02-04-2003 04:06 PM |
| For my upcoming birthday, a friend is making a relatively light squash soup, made with vegetable stock (as opposed to chicken stock). I'm thinking Pinot Gris. Any other thoughts? | | | Heater Allen Brewing - www.heaterallen.com |
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David Niederauer  Los Gatos, CA
 VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
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 | | 02-04-2003 04:14 PM |
| I've wondered if one should even serve wine with hot soup. The temp shock to the mouth??? I'll be interested in responses to DukeRiley's thread | | | |
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love_cab_chard  Master of Wine
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 | | 02-04-2003 04:32 PM |
| Never tried (with any soup).
But wait (the only time), I tried a Voignier @ a nice Chinese Restaurant (with hot & sour soup). A No-No if I ever saw 1.
Usually don't pair Wine/Soup. But, yes, interesting to see if some one has & it worked. | | | |
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DukeRiley  McMinnville, OR Wine Labeler
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 | | 02-04-2003 04:40 PM |
| I made a roasted squash and apple soup and served it with an off-dry reisling, which ended up being a pretty good pairing (it played well off the smoky/sweet taste of the soup). I don't think the same thing will work as well with this soup though. From what I understand this soup will be lighter with some sage influence. This would be a lot easier if I was doing the cooking myself!  | | | Heater Allen Brewing - www.heaterallen.com | |
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love_cab_chard  Master of Wine
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 | | 02-04-2003 04:41 PM |
| I would atually like the recipe for that, if you would be so kind (& have the time). That Soup sounds GREAT!!! | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 02-04-2003 04:47 PM |
| I can think of no valid reason why some soups don't pair well with wine. Mishy mumbled something once about too much liquid. I don't buy that at all. One of my most favorite pairings is a sturdy Chardonnay with Vichyssoise. True, I serve the soup cold and it's thick, but there's no mistaking the soup for any state of matter other than liquid. I've served Rhones with a rich beefy vegetable soup and loved the combination.
Now if you're talking about a wine with chicken stock, I'd probably pass, but if the soup is full-flavored, go for it. | | | |
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TCK  Barrel Filler
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 | | 02-04-2003 05:00 PM |
| And where exactly is the line between soup and stew. There is a ton of liquid in Boeuf Bourguignon - any one think that doesn't pair well with wine, I would think not. I think a pinot pris would be perfect. | | | |
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JonesWineNo1  Sommelier
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 | | 02-04-2003 05:03 PM |
| Pinot Gris sounds like a good match to me. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 02-04-2003 05:03 PM |
| TCK wins first grize with that post!  | | | |
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DukeRiley  McMinnville, OR Wine Labeler
 Posts: 3868
 | | 02-04-2003 05:05 PM |
| Unfortunately I don't carry all my cookbooks to work (I think they'd frown on it). I'll post the receipe in the next couple of days. | | | Heater Allen Brewing - www.heaterallen.com | |
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Budman  Philly Suburbs
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 | | 02-04-2003 05:26 PM |
| Board-O, Maybe he meant that the pinot gris he tried was a little too prissy | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Fermenter
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 | | 02-04-2003 05:31 PM |
| "Over here" we usually pair soups with Amontillado, but it better be something with more character than (standard) vegetable stock: consomme, almond soup, garlic soup with boiled egg and fried bread crumbs inside... As a high-alcohol/room temperature aperitif it works well with hot dishes like these. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 02-04-2003 05:37 PM |
| Hey Gasty, you have a good recipe for sopa de ajo? | | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Fermenter
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 | | 02-04-2003 11:44 PM |
| Sure, give me some time to bribe the lady by the cauldron...  | | | |
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ttepper  Wine Thief
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 | | 02-05-2003 12:42 AM |
| For those comming to the March 1st tasting, our first course will be soup...I hope they work well together... | | | |
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Seaquam  Barrel Filler
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 | | 02-05-2003 01:38 AM |
| Like your choice.
Alternatively, like all the other Alsatian varietals as well--Riesling, Pinot Blanc, Pinot Auxerois, Gewurtztraminer, in that order with that soup. | | | |
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DukeRiley  McMinnville, OR Wine Labeler
 Posts: 3868
 | | 02-05-2003 02:26 AM |
| Thanks to all for the suggestions. I'm going to go with a 2000 Elk Cove Pinot Gris. It has a hint of sage in it that should be interesting with the soup. Next week I'll give you a recap on the whole dinner and TNs on the wines. | | | Heater Allen Brewing - www.heaterallen.com | |
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ChangeMe  Barrel Filler
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 | | 02-05-2003 02:49 AM |
| Some wine certainly pairs with some soups. Lobster Bisque screams big buttery malo chardonnay to me. | | | |
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ChangeMe  Master of Wine
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 | | 02-05-2003 03:15 PM |
| Duke the best Pinot Gris I've had outside of Alsace is the Elk Cove. | | | |
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Winetex  Austin, Texas
 Master of Wine
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 | | 02-05-2003 08:53 PM |
| In Burgundy some of the restaurants served vegetable cream soups as the first course with white burgundy. I remember an asparagus soup that was just fantastic. There were none of the "off" aspects that you might expect matching asparagus with wine. Yuuummm. | | | |
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