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Eric White  Send Private Message
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10-14-2008 02:32 PM  
This weekend the Lafon Rochet's and Teri and I got together up at The Sea Ranch for a relaxing weekend by the coast. We had decided that one of our meals would be a taste-off between some well selected, high-end beef to see which beef reigns supreme! The lineup, all boneless rib eye:
 
 
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10-14-2008 05:04 PM  
shouldn't person #3 have taken out the steel markers and relabeled them with a new code matching their new symbols to the steel rods? you would have to used 2 decoders in the end but the way it stands the initial coder would have been able to recognize the steaks on the plates no?

sounds like a fun meal. maybe i will have to help out on the next one...eheheh.
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10-14-2008 05:24 PM  
You're probably right Alex, but I guarantee she (the coder) wasn't paying attention to the steel rods - and wouldn't have remembered which steak they went to anyway!
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10-14-2008 05:35 PM  
Eric, would you mind re-posting that after this post? It is hard to see because of the "first post bug"

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10-14-2008 06:21 PM  
reposting for readability:
 
This weekend the Lafon Rochet's and Teri and I got together up at The Sea Ranch for a relaxing weekend by the coast. We had decided that one of our meals would be a taste-off between some well selected, high-end beef to see which beef reigns supreme! The lineup, all boneless rib eye:
 
- Allen Brother's USDA Prime dry aged
- Lobel's USDA Prime dry aged
- Whole Foods USDA Prime dry aged
- Bryan Flannery's "Private Reserve", California, 30-40 day dry aged
- Bryan Flannery's "Private Reserve", California, 60 day dry aged
- plain old Costco beef
 
I had wanted to include Niman Ranch in the lineup, and indeed I tried - but somehow their fulfillment arm, Buckhead Beef, couldn't seem to figure out the difference between a billing address, and a shipping address, so despite waiting around at The Sea Ranch on Friday, the beef didn't appear until we discovered it on our front porch on our returned home Sunday afternoon - three days cooking in the direct sun, yum... (yes, they refunded the cost in full, but with comment or apology - methinks Niman Ranch will be interested to hear of their performance...)
 
Tasting was blind, through a rather creative marking and separation of duties. Person #1 created the markers and marked the steaks by inserting different shaped, or different numbers of, thin steel rods, noting each producer with that indication on a piece of paper. Person #2, not knowing which was which, grilled the steaks (me). Person #3, not knowing which was which, sliced and plated the steaks, leaving the steel rod markers on each place for later identification. This worked surprisingly well, and the only steak we all new visually was Costco, due to it's unfortunate distinct size and thickness.
 
Before getting to the results, it must be pointed out that all these steaks were excellent, and I would be very happy to sit down to a meal of any one of them. That said, the winner won (surprisingly) by unanimous votes, and when revealed turned out to be....Lobels USDA Prime dry aged! I must say this surprised me - I love Lobel's, but I honestly expected Flannery to kill the competition.

By vote count, the rest of the steaks placed in the following order:
 
#2: Bryan Flannery's "Private Reserve", California, 30-40 day dry aged
#3: Bryan Flannery's "Private Reserve", California, 60 day dry aged (this wasl #2 for me)
#4: Allen Brother's USDA Prime dry aged
#5: Whole Foods USDA Prime dry aged
#6: Costco
 
Between the top three steaks the competition was very close, all three were simply tremendous, and it was difficult to choose a clear winner. Allen Brothers, while very good, was a significant step down, while Whole Foods was surprisingly tough, and Costco was just a very good, but not outstanding, steak.

This was really great fun, and I actually want to do it again with only the top three so that we can concentrate on the best of the best and see how they fair. I'd also like to do a separate tasting to include some producers not included here, such as Niman Ranch & Prather Ranch - which begs the question for those reading this - what producers should not be left out next time?
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10-14-2008 06:29 PM  
Awesome write-up Eric. Thanks. I've always wondered if some of the mail order steaks were worth the tariff. I haven't tried any of them except the Whole Foods.
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10-14-2008 06:37 PM  
Oh my, well I can tell you - some are definitely worth the tariff! We've been ordering Lobel's for a few years now, and have never been disappointed. Certainly not cheap, but we sort of justify it by considering what an equivalent (well, in most cases, lesser) meal would cost at a quality steakhouse. If you REALLY want to splurge, go for the Lobel's Wagyu, it is truly an OMFG steak...
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10-14-2008 08:51 PM  
Was the Costco rib-eye the regular, or their prime? The prime was running $10.99/lb last week...

My take away from this is that I can be content with Costco meat at 1/2 to 1/3 of the price :-P
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10-14-2008 11:34 PM  
Eric - Great write up. Thanks for posting it twice so that I could read it. (the first one is just html gibberish)

I've had Lobel's many times, and it does not surprise me that it came out first. Of course, you could have included Luger's... That and Lobel's are the best of the best. That said, Bryan's is my favorite, because it is less expensive than Lobel's.

Drew - Costco meat is acceptable, but not anywhere close to the league these others play in. For a splurge, go for Bryan's. One pound of Rib-eye is $34, which may seem like a lot, but how much do you spend on the wine to go with the meal?

Update: One pound of ribeye at Lobels is $39; the wagyu is $91 for a pound. Hmmm...
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10-14-2008 11:47 PM  
So I can buy 3 lbs of rib-eyes at Loebels (not including shipping), or I can buy 3 Costco primes and a bottle of Bressler? :-P

Don't get me wrong, I'm the guy that took pics of dinner every night and posted them. Eric's blind tasting rocks!!!
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10-14-2008 11:55 PM  
From my non-scientific experience (my non-scientific scientific experience?), Costco is decent and very good value, I don't like Whole Foods red meat at the price, and Flannery is great. Haven't tried Loebel's. I most commonly buy prime beef from Andronico's, I think it's from Snake River Farms.

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10-15-2008 01:38 AM  
am I missing something? Where is the link to the wine pairings?
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seriously, this sounds like a super fun idea.  Now I'm thinking of a line up of same cut different beast...
   buffalo  beef   elk   wildebeest
etc

 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is...

.ps - friends don't let friends eat farmed salmon.
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10-15-2008 09:02 AM  
You might want to keep checking Whole Foods. I shop at the Whole Foods headquarters store here in Austin. Their offices are connected to this store so there are always corporate types wandering about the store. They are becoming acutely price conscious with the recent economic downturn.

As I was at the meat counter last week they were quizzing me about what makes me buy more meat. Local, price, etc.?? I said it is the price for the cut of meat. They were running a special that day that said "under $10" on some lovely sirloin steaks. I pointed to the sign and said "That gets my attention" a lower price on a good cut of meat. When the price is good I buy a few servings and throw them in the freezer.
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10-15-2008 09:25 AM  
I don't like the Whole Foods beef compared to meat I can get at Andronico's, it doesn't come close for me. The Andronico's prime is expensive, but I only eat beef about once a week so the cost is worth it to me.

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10-15-2008 10:27 AM  
I haven't been as impressed with the Whole Foods stuff, personally. I've had Flannery filets, and they were awesome.
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10-15-2008 11:27 AM  
I don't see pictures??? Sounds like a great evening! And even though I've never had Lobel's Waygu, I'll place a $20 bet that the Akaushi from heartbrand will blow it away....
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10-15-2008 01:33 PM  
Whole foods is okay but IMO for the quality a little bit too pricey. Local alternatives usually have similar (if not better) quality priced reasonably.

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10-15-2008 02:15 PM  
And now for a picture of actual Kobe beef....
 
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10-15-2008 02:23 PM  
Wow marbling...

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Actual Japanese Kobe is really in it's own, separate category...
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10-16-2008 12:38 AM  
Wonderful idea.
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