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07-07-2008 09:20 AM  
Basil -- growing well
rosemary -- growing decently
oregano -- growing very well
curly parsley -- killed all but one plant with replanting them, oh well
flat leaf parsley -- transplantation killed it
thyme -- growing OK to good
tomatoes -- four plants going CRAZY, two just so-so
cucumbers -- unsure, they are spreading but not yet setting 'fruit'
japanese eggplant -- looking productive finally!
honeydew melon -- ????
savoy cabbage -- got eaten by something, but clinging to life
brussel sprouts -- got eaten, but doing OK
celery -- alive and kicking but not growing very tall, ??? as to its future
potatoes -- I need to go look up what potatoes are supposed to look like, I think they might be DOA
peppers -- hots are doing well, others are either good, ok, or struggling depending
broccoli -- got eaten, but looks like they might produce a little
some kind of squash -- ???
Figs -- is bigger this year than ever before, I near to learn how to make fig jam soon
Strawberries -- plants doing ok and spreading
blueberries -- two new plants look very good, two existing survived and are doing OK

Lack of rain has been my biggest problem and the bugs that ate up lots of leafy stuff.
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07-07-2008 10:14 AM  
Hi TJ - I'm a novice gardner here - what do you mean when you say "overwintered" in your previous post?

This summer we are growing tomatos, basil, spearmint and rosemary.
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07-07-2008 09:53 PM  
I see you are having similar problems with your garden TJ. In the wine world, we say "a bad year", well a bad year for growing gardens also.

I have a fence. And, it has kept the critters away in the past years. The bastards found a way in, digging under the fence. The bastard did some good damage to the garden. The culprit is possom(s), the bastards. I sprayed with one of those critter repellant sprays. They claim it keeps all of them away. Yeah right it does.

Any one know what to do about damn possums, how to keep them away from the garden. The bastards found a way to get under my damn fence. The little crop that I did have growing well, the bastards ate it (salad, cucumber that are coming about, parsley, & some of the dill). :-(
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07-08-2008 12:35 AM  
A 12 gauge works, but you need some beers while you keep watch. You should probably also worry about the neighbors, circumstances depending. Possums are smart enough to understand bad karma.

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07-08-2008 09:30 AM  
Posted By jaimetown on 07/07/2008 10:14 AM
Hi TJ - I'm a novice gardner here - what do you mean when you say "overwintered" in your previous post?

This summer we are growing tomatos, basil, spearmint and rosemary.
jaimetown...overwintering can mean two things -- 1) that you brought whatever the plant was inside to the house or greenhouse (someplace with a fair amount of light) OR 2) that you left the plant in the ground or pot and it managed to survive the winter.
 
For me, option 2 is what I am generally talking about. Aside from basil, I have been able to 'overwinter' virtually every herb I have planted almost every year. It really speeds up the process in getting fresh herbs far earlier in the year than waiting for a new plant to make it.
 
You can arguably overwinter more sensitive things like peppers indoors, same for lemon trees and the like, but I'm too busy to fuss with that. Maybe when I get a greenhouse some decade....

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07-08-2008 09:33 AM  
Posted By love_cab_chard on 07/07/2008 9:53 PM
I see you are having similar problems with your garden TJ. In the wine world, we say "a bad year", well a bad year for growing gardens also.

I have a fence. And, it has kept the critters away in the past years. The bastards found a way in, digging under the fence. The bastard did some good damage to the garden. The culprit is possom(s), the bastards. I sprayed with one of those critter repellant sprays. They claim it keeps all of them away. Yeah right it does.

Any one know what to do about damn possums, how to keep them away from the garden. The bastards found a way to get under my damn fence. The little crop that I did have growing well, the bastards ate it (salad, cucumber that are coming about, parsley, & some of the dill). :-(

It's not a horrible year, LCC. Not great, but not horrible. The stuff eating my cabbage and the like is I think actually aphids from what I have read. I am loathe to use any pesticides whatsoever so I'd rather see what survives, plus this is my first year trying these plants out. So it is also a learning experience....
 
As for critters getting in to your garden, you should try encircling your veggie patch (EARLY!) with marigolds. Get as many flats as you need, they are pretty cheap and they grow fast and even do ok without regular watering. The stink does a pretty good job of keeping the foraging type from our garden in past years.
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07-08-2008 10:01 AM  
LCC, bury chicken wire under the fence under the ground.  Another option is a motion detector sprinkler to scare the hell out them when they enter the garden.  We use those on deer around here.  

My tomatoes are in a lull due to the heat but I was getting quite a few.

Enjoy your salads now as the FDA is stopping shipments of cilantro, jalapeno peppers, serrano peppers, scallions, and bulb onions from Mexico due to the salmonella outbreak.  FDA stops produce from Mexico  .  
 
The FDA really doesn't know what/where the source of the outbreak is after all of this time.  Scary.   The Farmer's Markets are doing booming business around here these days.
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07-08-2008 09:06 PM  
Correction: not possums but that creature from 1 of the funniest, if not the funniest movie of all time, Caddyshack. It is, in fact, a groundhog.

Thanks guyz, I did a lot reading on the Internet after your posts as to how to get rid of these critters. It looks like it is no easy task. They won't just go away on their own over night. Even if you catch them, you have to drive them @ least 2-3 miles from your home so that they don't find their way back.

I hope I have more luck than Bill Murray. :-)

Thing is that they multiple/procreate rather easily too much like deer. It has come to a point where I am afraid to leave the house not knowing when I come back all my veggies will be gone. Until I find a way to get rid of them, I am screwed. And, their #1 target is a veggie garden once they hit up on it.

Damn it.
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07-09-2008 09:07 AM  
Due to my original garden plot apparently having some sort of a fungus in the soil and killing all of my tomato plants last year, I opted to expand the garden and now have a garden that's twice the size of my original one.  I still used the old plot but no tomato plants there.  Here's what's planted...

Zucchini plants...doing pretty well
Basil...doing reasonably well although growing slowly
Rosemary...it's been in the garden for about 10 years and continues to thrive
Flat leaf parsley...doing well but some four legged creature ate all of the flat leaves last week and they're just starting to reappear
Pepper plant...a sweet variety...growing very slowly
Two "blueberry bushes"...ordered for me by my father who gets flower and plant catalogues and orders from them.  The "bushes" came with no green on them, only bare canes.  I have no idea if they're alive but they're getting ripped out at the end of the summer if there's no sign of life and will be replaced with bushes bought at the local nursery.  
Four different types of tomato plants...rebounding from a recent meeting with I assume, the same four legged creature that ate my parsley.  I went out to the garden about a week after planting everything and found almost all of the plants' tops eaten off.  I got a rabbit/deer/elk repellent who's main ingredient is dried bovine blood.  The smell is god awful and not only should it keep wild animals away, it will keep people away.  
Eggplant...growing well...

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07-09-2008 09:48 AM  
Thanks TJ for the explanation - one "home remedy" I heard (but never tried) to keep animals away is for a male member of the household to urinate in the area... anybody heard about this?
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07-09-2008 03:38 PM  
I don't know about human urine, but you can buy different types of animal urine from Home Depot, etc. for this purpose.

I prefer to use Barefoot Zinfandel instead :-D
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07-09-2008 07:20 PM  
Yes, some recommend fox urine & coyote urine since that's their natural enemy. Also, some recommend what Winetex posted, a wire under the fence. I now know more about groundhogs that I ever needed to know. No solution yet, I am considering my options.
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07-10-2008 08:54 AM  
Can you imagine being the poor shlub who has to collect the fox or coyote urine?  What do you do...grab them around the groin and squeeze????

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07-10-2008 09:19 AM  
Drew's Barefoot Zinfandel would probably do the trick.
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07-12-2008 12:06 AM  
Here is the update from my garden: the greens (basil, dill, parsley, salads, chives, rosemary) are now doing great.

Tomatoes, cucumbers, eggplant, peppers are still struggling.

Tomatoes/Cucumbers the last 3 years were in abundance for me, more than we could possibly eat. So, we would give it out to people we know. Not this year though.

Peppers/Eggplant: always a tough grow for me.

And, of course, I am still battling the damn groundhogs. Otherwise known as garden killers.
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07-25-2008 09:43 PM  
i eat a lot of tomatoes & i'm having trouble keeping up with production now.  of course i have 8 different varieties this year.
 
i have more basil than i can eat, way more italian parsley than i will use this year & plenty of rosemary, thyme, sage & oregeno.
 
i have a few strawberry plants that are still producing, but it is a race to get them before the pill bugs do.
 
i had lettuce early in the spring, but it is all gone now.
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07-26-2008 11:07 AM  
We've been harvesting plenty of small hot peppers and a good amount of japanese eggplant, too. Grape tomatoes are starting to roll in from their original trickle and there is a bumper crop of slicing tomatoes about a week out. Woo-hoo!
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07-26-2008 02:25 PM  
Things are picking up with me also. But, no way it is like the years past. I've read a lot about it. This year is not a great one on the East Coast. And, it effected every one including the home garden enthusiast(s). While things are picking up a little I just don't see the amount of flowers that I should be already seeing on the veggie plants.
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07-29-2008 04:03 PM  
I just had 7 tomatos (still green) taken by the resident squirrel living in the tree behind my townhouse. On Sunday I caught him red handed with one in his mouth.

He's dead. It's on like Caddyshack!!!
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08-03-2008 05:02 PM  
I am watering almost twice a day now just to keep my plants alive. Not much chance of actually getting anything from them. It is 103 degrees right now at almost 4 pm. My rain barrel has held out OK due to some rain 1.5 weeks ago but that has been almost it for the summer. Another rain barrel is empty just waiting for a fill. They aren't attractive but I've been able to water as much as I like. We have severe water restrictions in place and can only water twice a week. At over 100 degrees every day things are getting very crispy.

Even the deer are looking a bit desperate. I've put out a bucket of water for them at times which they will drain.

Please send rain.
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