tanglenet  Oakland, California
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 | | 06-01-2008 06:22 PM |
| For the first time we are planting a vegetable / herb garden (after living in our house for about 10 years). I'm curious who has one and your experience. We are planting: salad bowl lettuce
red romaine lettuce summer squash
basil (a couple of different kinds)
several tomato types cucumber
parsley dill
mint and various other things that will probably die
I'm also growing Shitake mushrooms on a log that I bought on eBay.
My wife is from Brooklyn and I'm from Los Angeles. We are the least likely of urban farmers.
Let the hilarity begin!
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Drew  Sammamish, WA
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 | | 06-01-2008 11:32 PM |
| Most important thing I found with my garden in Hollister was that you need to water the heck out of it, and I spent 30 minutes a night watering a a 15x20 ft plot. Tossed some Miracle Grow in once a month via a container that hooked on to the hose. Our cucumbers took off like CRAZY and we were literally picking 12-15 a day at one point from a single pack of seeds. Tomato plants were similar; we ended up eating salsa every night and freezing a ton of paste. Looked at butter leaf lettuce, but our neighbors told us horror stories about bugs, etc. and we threw in the towel. You should also consider carrots. Really easy to plant and relatively little maintenance. You'll want to make sure you till deep for carrots though, or you'll get fat, stubby little carrots :-D
Currently, I'm not having an easy go at things with the basil. Supposed to plant well with tomato plants, but the tomatos are doing fine and the basil is getting killed. Rosemary, lavender and jalapeno plants are taking off, and my two sage plants aren't really doing all that much. | | | |
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Winetex  Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
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 | | 06-02-2008 11:18 AM |
| Drew has a good point about watering. If you can use a drip watering system. The most important part is consistent watering especially with the tomatoes. They can crack if the water is not consistent.
Currently I'm growing:
Peaches
Figs
Tomatoes (hybrid and heirloom)
Bell and Jalepeno Peppers
Herbs - Basil, sage, rosemary (it's a weed here that the deer won't eat), thyme, italian parsley
Most of these except the trees are in large pots on my deck. Unfortunately we had a hailstorm and mini-tornado two weeks ago that took out all of the peaches, peppers and many tomatoes. We had two window screens that had over 30 holes each from the hail. Didn't lose any windows but lots of people did.
Feel free to ask any questions - gardening is one of my thangs.  and Good luck! | | | |
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love_cab_chard  Master of Wine
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 | | 06-02-2008 07:42 PM |
| This year we planted:
Basil & Lemon Basil Chives Dill Lettuce Salad Parsley Rosemary Tomatoes (all kinds) Cucumbers (all kinds) Eggplant Peppers (all kinds) | | | |
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tanglenet  Oakland, California
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 Posts: 3397
 | | 06-03-2008 11:59 AM |
| Several years ago, I planted a dwarf lemon, lime and an orange tree in the yard. The meyer lemon, I bought about 20 years ago and it started life in a container in SF. When we moved to Oakland and I put it into the ground, it has never gotten larger than 4' (makes it easy for picking). The lime is finally producing some fruit after a couple of years and the orange produces fruit, but it seems to be easily frost damaged, so some of it is inedible. The lemon has been a consistent producer.
So far, the transplant vegetables looks like they've taken, except for the dill. I decided not to grow from seed this year, since we are starting late.
Does anyone do winter vegetables? And if so, when do you plant?
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Pool Boy  Laurl, MD (DC suburb) Master of Wine
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 | | 06-04-2008 09:03 AM |
| Basil rosemary (overwintered and is growing like crazy) oregano (overwintered and growing like crazy) curly parsley (overwintered and growing like crazy) flat leaf parsley (overwintered and WAS growing like crazy until I transplanted it and killed it) thyme (overwintered and growing like crazy) tomatoes (grape, some slicer and several roma varieties) cucumbers (slicing, not pickling) japanese eggplant (not looking so good) honeydew melon (who knows?) savoy cabbage (looks good) brussel sprouts (looks good so far) celery (struggling) potatoes (no signs of life yet....) peppers (mostly mild varieties with one hot variety as Mrs. TJ can't stand the heat) broccoli (a mystery) some kind of squash Figs (it's a beast of a bush/tree/plant) Strawberries (we got two berries!!) blueberries (starting over this year, will let the tiny crop go to the birds)
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love_cab_chard  Master of Wine
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 | | 06-04-2008 07:36 PM |
| TJ, no success with eggplant here either. And, that's interesting, I am probably doing something wrong. NJ is 1 of the largest eggplant producers in the country. So, NJ is fine for growing it. But, not me obviously. :-) | | | |
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Winetex  Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
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 | | 06-04-2008 10:01 PM |
| Eggplant is a tough one. I buy it at the Farmer's Market. **shrugs**
We are at over 14 days of 95+ degrees (record heat with no relief in sight). I have a rain barrel that I use to water with but it is almost gone. ARG. | | | |
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Drew  Sammamish, WA
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 | | 06-04-2008 10:37 PM |
| Must be nice Tex, as we're seeing rain. Rain, rain, rain. What the hell? Feels like I'm in Seattle... | | | |
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Winetex  Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
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 | | 06-05-2008 10:23 AM |
| Please send the rain Drew. Today is the first day in quite a while with some real clouds. Before that it felt like Southern California during the Santa Ana winds. It has been around 20% humidity which is shockingly low for this area. | | | |
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Pool Boy  Laurl, MD (DC suburb) Master of Wine
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 | | 06-06-2008 09:53 AM |
| Posted By Winetex on 06/04/2008 10:01 PM
Eggplant is a tough one. I buy it at the Farmer's Market. **shrugs**
We are at over 14 days of 95+ degrees (record heat with no relief in sight). I have a rain barrel that I use to water with but it is almost gone. ARG. Winetex/LCC -- This is our first year trying egplant. I am not sure but I think we have had too much of the pummeling kind of rain and not enough sun. It is supposed to break 90 degrees here for the first time this year today and through the weekend. If anything will reveive the 4 plants, it'll be over the next few days but I am not expecting miracles.... Wintetex-- Got any tips on the rain barrel thing? Do you have your gutters run off in to a rain barrel? How does it work when the barrel is full, does it auto switch the overflow to go wherever your gutter water usually goes? We have our gutters drain to underground tubes that run to the front of the property to keep the back yard as swampless as possible (a losing battle). On the good news front, our tomatoes are starting to finally grow well.
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Winetex  Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
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 | | 06-06-2008 11:53 AM |
| Wintetex-- Got any tips on the rain barrel thing? Do you have your gutters run off in to a rain barrel? How does it work when the barrel is full, does it auto switch the overflow to go wherever your gutter water usually goes? We have our gutters drain to underground tubes that run to the front of the property to keep the back yard as swampless as possible (a losing battle). Our gutters run directly into the rain barrel. We had to cut the gutter with a hacksaw and have a plastic piece that drains from the bottom of the gutter directly into the rain barrel. If it overflows it's on to my flagstone deck so it's not very sophisticated. You can buy two and link them together.
If you purchase rainbarrels get the largest size possible. The City of Austin offers rebates on rainbarrels so we get a pretty good deal.
Here is the one I have:  It fills my watering can fairly quickly. I'm going to buy another one for another location as I have lots of thirsty plants. This helps me reduce the use of my irrigation system but does take more time to do the watering.
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love_cab_chard  Master of Wine
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 | | 06-06-2008 01:02 PM |
| My 1st year with eggplant also. So, we will see... I am not expecting much, but hoping. | | | |
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tanglenet  Oakland, California
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 | | 06-07-2008 04:55 PM |
| In order to make my spouse happy (isn't that what marriage is about: actions that create happiness and deflect criticism?), I purchased a Marion Blackberry vine, a Highbrush Blueberry bush and some strawberry plants.
Also, purchased some Lemon Grass.
Lost a Dill plant for sure. May have lost the Cilantro also. | | | TN posted on Cellartracker"
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Winetex  Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
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 | | 06-07-2008 05:38 PM |
| Cilantro bolts so quickly in heat that it is not worth it to grow. | | | |
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saut  Barrel Filler
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 | | 06-08-2008 01:34 AM |
| The best thing about cilantro is to let it go to seed. The result, coriander, is fantastic freshly toasted and ground, added to hummus, or in a yogurt marinade for chicken, or in a marinade or crust for lamb. One plant will give you enough coriander for several years...
The meyer lemon tree is the best. Lemons are now $1.00 each at Safeway in Diamond Heights, SF. Amazing that the Fed sees minimal inflation... | | | |
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Winetex  Austin, Texas (pretty fall colors here)
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 | | 06-08-2008 10:39 AM |
| Yes, agree on the Meyer lemons. The hail took out my lemons, limes and oranges. I have maybe 2 of each on the trees now. The trees look nice though. | | | |
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Dave  Wine Connoisseur
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 | | 06-08-2008 05:39 PM |
| basil
rosemary
oregano
curly parsley
flat leaf parsley sage
thyme cilantro (had no idea about the coriander) dill epazote | | | |
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love_cab_chard  Master of Wine
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 | | 07-06-2008 09:46 PM |
| For those of you with Gardens this year, let me ask you how is it going (especially folks on the East Coast). This is my 4th year, & the worse gardening year. Slow to growth on almost everything I planted. Posted above:
Basil & Lemon Basil: usually grows like grass. Slow this year. Chives: usually grows like grass. Slow this year. Dill: usually grows like grass. Not growing @ all. Lettuce Salad: usually grows like grass. Slow this year. Parsley: no problem Rosemary: no problem Tomatoes (all kinds): Usually so much we give it to people we know. Slow this year. Cucumbers (all kinds): Usually so much we give it to people we know. Slow this year. Eggplant: nothing yet Peppers (all kinds): Slow this year.
Any one else??? May be the cold that lasted into May. May be, the lack of sun for the most part & cool nights still. I don't know the reason(s), but not happy with the garden @ all this season. A lot of work the last 2-3 months & very little to show for it this season. :-( | | | |
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Drew  Sammamish, WA
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 | | 07-07-2008 12:00 AM |
| I planted the tomatoes and basil in a poor location. Basil actually turned black, tomatoes have yet to do anything. Rosemary plants (4) are taking off, as are my lavender (2) and jalapenos (2). Golden and purple sage are just kinda sitting there. I've picked some leaves off of both, but not much is happening. | | | |
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