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2001 Torbreck The Factor
Last Post 01-19-2005 03:25 PM byChangeMe. 15 Replies.
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02-27-2004 06:55 PM  
(Shiraz, dry farmed 80+ year old vines) This wine is completely sold out and one taste of this will tell you why. Offered at a lower price point than its $150 sibling, The Run Rig, this wine was a dark, rich maroon in color with lots of dark plums, blueberries and figs on the nose. Nice chewy mouthfeel and good depth. Very extracted and almost Turley-esque in that manner. Silky finish. 93 pts.
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01-13-2005 04:44 PM  
Lafon,

Do you know anything about the 2002? I am going to an Australian Shiraz tasting in April and can get two of these that I would like to bring to it. What would you expect to pay? Any help would be great. Thanks.
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01-14-2005 12:20 AM  
I know nothing of the '02, but I do know that the '01 was selling at Lafon Rochet's favorite wine store for $95 last March.
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01-14-2005 12:31 AM  
If anything the 02 Factor should be even better than the 01.
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01-14-2005 01:29 AM  
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If anything the 02 Factor should be even better than the 01.




No if anything about it! They are both very good but the 02 is the better wine. I have tried the 01 but cant not find the tasting note.

Torbreck 2002 The Factor SA2004 sells for $125 at CD. Cropped at about ½ ton to the acre, the fruit comes from Moppa and Kanunga Hill and has been aged in 30% new French oak. The bouquet is bloody good but it is brooding, like a spoilt little rich kid that refuses to come out of their room. Sweet raspberry and cherry on the attack, with a savoury mid palate of plums, blackcurrant, tar and mint; the complexity is wonderful. It is a very classy, full-bodied wine with abundant, drying, puckering tannins and distinct fruit. Locked up tight at the moment, it is rated as Excellent with ** for value.
Cheers Ric<br>www.torbwine.com
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01-14-2005 07:52 PM  
Thanks Torb - sounds excellent.
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01-14-2005 09:30 PM  
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Thanks Torb - sounds excellent.




Yep! Thats what I rated it.
Cheers Ric<br>www.torbwine.com
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01-15-2005 04:56 AM  
Yeah - good news. I picked up 2 bottles of the 01 last year purely based on rep and my desire to try more nice Aussies that I hadn't been exposed to yet. I got it for a steal ($40-50 - something like that) - I didn't even know what I had until I've been reading reviews recently. Any recs on drinking windows? I figured I'd let them sit for a bit - though I imagine its not mandatory with these fuit bomby type of wines...
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01-15-2005 07:37 AM  
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Lafon,

Do you know anything about the 2002? I am going to an Australian Shiraz tasting in April and can get two of these that I would like to bring to it. What would you expect to pay? Any help would be great. Thanks.




Sorry, I do not know much about the 2002, but listen to Seaquam. He's been eying it for awhile, but has been holding off on pulling the trigger.

Also, I would consult winesearcher or premier cru to determine places to purchase this wine if that's what you decide.

Good luck!
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01-15-2005 11:26 PM  
I'm not big on Aussie Shiraz not named Grange, but the '02 Factor is pretty good stuff. Overpriced, but I would love to have some in my cellar. And I think it will age nicely for 10-12 yrs.

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01-15-2005 11:35 PM  
Winoman,

These are not "fruit bombs" in the true sense although they do have lots of ripe fuit to back a well balanced structure. Whilst it can be drunk young, there is no doubt it would bewastet to do so as these wines will gain real complexity with age.
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01-17-2005 04:32 PM  
That's quite a bias JB and is surprising to me given that Grange is not exactly a value choice and you are usually more immune to the allure of icon wines than others.

I have a fair amount of high end Shiraz in my collection and I am not bothered at all by not having a single Penfolds wine in it including Grange. I would really be bothered if I did not have any Torbreck though.
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01-18-2005 12:01 AM  
Yeah - I think I sort of realized that it was (will be) a more civilized Syrah. I have really enjoyed the Rosemount Balmoral Syrah and the Penfolds RWT (both from 98) and I wanted some more exposure to well made - more balanced Syrahs from down under (they all still have pretty powerful fruit...just goes with all the sunshine and because thats what most folks want I think...) - and I was hoping to branch out a bit from the Aussie wine equivilants of Miller and Budweiser- so (last year) I picked up a number of the Torbrek and Kay Brothers wines (and some others i can't remember off the top of my head) that didn't seem as if they were overpriced for the quality. I have yet to crack one yet - but am expecting great things....and I am always open to suggestions as well...
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01-18-2005 01:25 AM  
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Y have yet to crack one yet - but am expecting great things....and I am always open to suggestions as well...




Winoman.... now go grab the rough end of a pineapple, bend over and ....

Sorry, could not resist it. Those Kays are pretty bloody good, and even better at US$20 to US$35 a bottle here. for mailing list customers.
Cheers Ric<br>www.torbwine.com
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01-18-2005 04:38 PM  
Biased? You're probably right. I'm not big on Zinfandel either. I can appreciate both, but I don't feel a need to buy them and/or cellar them. Just not my style these days. I have culled all Austalian wine from my cellar save for 1 bottle of '01 D'Arenberg Dead Arm (given to me by the good Dr. T) and I still have one bottle of MPS2 that I will probably gift to someone at some point.

All that being said, I loved the Rockford Basket Press and yes, Grange is out of my price range, but I loved the vintages I've tried.

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01-19-2005 03:25 PM  
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and I still have one bottle of MPS2 that I will probably gift to someone at some point
jb




My birthday is in April.

Thanks for all the feedback everyone.
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