Since someone mentioned the WS rating in another section, I just got this email. I don't follow WS ratings, but if others to and thing this is a good price, I wanted to post this except from their email to me:

Château Léoville Las Cases St.-Julien 2000
100 points | $170 (WC$139.99) | NA cases made

The hard work and dedication of owner and director Jean-Hubert Delon have helped realize his family’s dream: The 2000 Las Cases is absolutely fantastic. This is one of the most exciting young reds I have tasted in a long, long time. It shows intense aromas of berries, currants and minerals, with hints of mint. Full-bodied and packed with fruit and seamless tannins, it is refined, silky and long on the finish. A benchmark

for the vintage. Best after 2012.—J.S.

Order: 800-678-5044 / 408-567-0600

Also available atPremier Cru for the same price. I've considered biting, but have not done so yet. How about you GATC?

Eric, good to know. I bought futures of the Leoville Barton, Pichon Baron, Pichon Lalande and Lynch Bages for 1/2 that price. I am a Leoville Las Cases fan (have a case of the 70 left), but it was too steep for me before and still too steep now. Just because WS gives it a 100 is not enough for me to jump. If Parker gave it a 100, that is a different story.

parker's barrel rating was a 93-95. he usually rates the las cases higher than suckling.

I ordered 6 earlier today from HiTimeWine for $129.

zachy's just raised their price to about $270 a bottle and has the ws 100 point score on the website. until parker's rating is revealed, this wine should not go up much in price, but it is a good investment in the $130-150 range. if parker gives it a 94-95, one could always get their money back. if parker has a revelation while drinking from the bottle and gives it a 97, the wine will be close to $200. if he gives it a 98, it will be up to $225 a bottle. if he decides to match, suckling, we are talking about $300 plus. keep in mind, although he gave the las cases a 93-95+ out of barrel, he did say that wines are tasting out of bottle in the higher range of his barrel scores.

Bertelli's has the best price I've seen yet, $1620.00 per case of 12. I went ahead and bit. With no sales tax, this comes in even less than HiTimes.

check pj wines and wine library. i think they might be less.

I hope you get your wines from Hi Times. They are the ones that gave me 2 bottles of Christoffels instead of the 2 cases I ordered (and paid for) when WA came out with the high ratings. i'm starting to regret not getting any LLC's. They will be great 20-25 years from now.

I'm with you GATC, I've gone back and forth on this one several times, I think I'm going to buy and then I don't. Keep trying to talk myself into buying 3 and my window of opportunity is closing.....OK you pushed me over the edge, 3 from Premier. I will not take responsibility for this impulse buying.

Wine Exchange just re - offered some futures and tied in Thursday's WS scores. Now Leoville Las Cases is available at $168.

I went into winesearcher.com and used my advanced privileges, thanks to skwid'c advice. The prices were going sky high - $140 range to double that. I guess WS does have some impact on the secondary market.

GATC: Yes they do. Guigal going for about $60.00-$70.00 a bottle?!? Yes.

Like someone (that we all know) told me once (about the WS-ratings & their "impact"): There are a Lot of people out there just don't know any better.

100 point scores even have an impact when WS gives them out.

I should not be so critical of WS ratings since I can't do a better job. But on the other hand, I'm not paid to do it either.

I guess I'm just cynical since there have been more than a dozen times when I tried a highly rated wine and thought, "what was James Laube thinking?"

gatc-i agree, but this is a 100 point score. in addition, this is leoville las cases, the greatest of all second growths. in mediocre vintages they make excellent wine. i would not be surprised to see parker bump up his rating to a 96 or higher. in fact, it is rare that leoville barton ever makes a better wine than las cases.

I just got an email that two 6-packs of the 2000 LLC is available in Nashville for $945.

After tax, it works out to about $172/bottle. If anyone wants them, I can pick them up for you on 8/29.

Steve:

PM coming. Just more for you to haul to DEN!

Mike

How you going to sneak this one into the house Mike?

Sounds like it is time to send Jill on that vacation she has been wanting

Mike