Eric White 
San Ramon, CA
Advanced Sommelier
Posts: 9624
 | | 09-22-2008 05:16 PM |
| 2006 Alpine Vineyard Pinot Noir, $49 (my allocation: 6)
2006 Alesia San Mateo Pinot, $29 (no allocation limit) 2006 Alpine Vineyard Chardonnay, $49 (my allocation: 2) 2006 Home Vineyard Pinot Noir, $59 (my allocation: 2) | | | 2008: the end of an error |
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ChillyWino
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1867
| | 09-22-2008 05:19 PM |
| I have the same allocation with the exception of the Home Vineyard Pinot. | | | |
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love_cab_chard
Master of Wine
Posts: 12771
| | 09-22-2008 05:21 PM |
| Fell off this list a while ago. | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5251
| | 09-22-2008 05:37 PM |
| I have an allocation of 4 Alpine Pinots available at cost to anyone interested. (Of course, if you want, you could also put in for some of the "no limit" Alesia Pinot as well.) No Chard or Home allocations for me. | | | Beta testing a new signature. | |
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tanglenet
Oakland, California
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3446
| | 09-22-2008 05:44 PM |
| I'm the same as Chilly, but won't be ordering.
As an aside, I was driving from San Rafael to Sebastopol last week through the back roads and came across Chileno Valley. I looked but did not see any vineyards in the area. Looks pretty much like cattle land with dry grass and lonesome oaks. | | TN posted on Cellartracker"
I drink no more than a sponge." François Rabelais
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Seamus Campbell
Portland, Oregon
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 441
| | 09-22-2008 05:48 PM |
| ChillyWino got my allocation and ate my post, to boot. I'm ordering. | | | |
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J cocktosten
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 544
| | 09-22-2008 06:19 PM |
| Not sure what we are doing with this one | | | |
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Rob Kim
Las Vegas, Nevada
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 461
| | 09-22-2008 07:03 PM |
| I'm on the fence with this as well, I'm probably in for the 2 chards, 2 Alpine PNs and 2 Alesias. Haven't been moved all that much with what I've had recently, fair enough, but not "wow, gotta get me some more". I will say that I haven't had any Rhys designated PNs yet, just the Alesias, so I may spring for some more of those. | | | |
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Dave
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5831
| | 09-22-2008 07:52 PM |
| I got the Chilly allocation. Will likely pass. | | | |
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David Spriggs
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 647
| | 09-22-2008 08:23 PM |
| I'm buying the all of Rhys and passing on the Alesia. I had all of them in barrel and loved the Rhys wines. That declasified Family Farm has got to be the first San Mateo designated wine that I can recall. What's next? An SFO cuvee? -Dave- | | | |
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scottj
Houston, TX
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1125
| | 09-22-2008 08:42 PM |
| Posted By David Spriggs on 09-22-2008 08:23 PM
That declasified Family Farm has got to be the first San Mateo designated wine that I can recall. -Dave- I think you're right. I tried to enter this in cellartracker, and had to post to the CT forum for Eric to add San Mateo county as an appellation. | | | |
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Randy Wigginton
Master of Wine
Posts: 10933
| | 09-22-2008 11:59 PM |
| Dave,
What, you aren't hot on the new Tenderloin AVA wines?
I'll be passing. I have had several Alesia wines that were undrinkable until the secondary fermentation CO2 was released (by shaking the wine with my finger over the top, release, repeat). Once they were relieved of the obvious flaw, they were good wines... but my oh my, a secondary ferment of that level should be reserved for sparkling wines. | | | |
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David Spriggs
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 647
| | 09-23-2008 01:26 AM |
| I don't think that's secondary fermentation. I think they (and a lot of Pinot makers these days) are botting with a lot of CO2 so that they can use less SO2. SO2 lightens the color and mutes the aromatics of the wine. I think that they are also doing minimal racking to preserve trapped CO2. I believe that the theory is that the wine will eventually absorb the CO2... but IMO this isn't an approach that will allow the wines to be enjoyed early in life. I know they have gone to their own bottling line, so maybe that will help. Anyway.. I have also seen this and will ask them about it.... and yes, it does seem a little excessive. -Dave- | | | |
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Dave
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5831
| | 09-23-2008 01:44 AM |
| Posted By Randy Wigginton on 09-22-2008 11:59 PM
Dave,
What, you aren't hot on the new Tenderloin AVA wines?
 Rich, burgophile attempts to produce terrior-driven wines in California. If the blasted French didn't have an 800 year headstart, I'd be on this like white on rice.
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tanglenet
Oakland, California
Wine Bottler
Posts: 3446
| | 09-23-2008 09:59 AM |
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Posted By Randy Wigginton on 09-22-2008 11:59 PM
Dave,
What, you aren't hot on the new Tenderloin AVA wines?
I thought the SF wine district was 6th and Mission? :)
| | TN posted on Cellartracker"
I drink no more than a sponge." François Rabelais
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Al_ksyrah
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2137
| | 09-23-2008 11:46 AM |
| Well, there's also an SF wine district down in Bayview.
-Al | | | |
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AlexRed
Northern VA
Wine Thief
Posts: 2674
| | 09-23-2008 03:12 PM |
| the home vineyard in 2004 was labeled "San Francisco Bay" which i thought was interesting... i was offered the Home then but not now. looks like somebody paid up big time at auction for an 04 Home vineyard ($241???) wow. i have a couple of Family farms from 04 but i haven't tasted those either. | | | |
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Al_ksyrah
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2137
| | 09-23-2008 11:54 PM |
| The Home and Family Farm vineyards are both slightly outside the Santa Cruz Mountains AVA and are in the San Francisco Bay AVA. The latter AVA has sub AVA's, but I don't know whether the Santa Clara Valley AVA covers these two vineyards. As far as I understand, the San Mateo County designation is not an AVA, it's an "appellation of origin". You can use a county, state, or country name as a geographic designation if at least 75% of the grapes came from that geographic entity. So, they could use either the SF Bay AVA or the San Mateo County for wines from Home or Family Farm.
As I understand it.
-Al | | | |
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R8der
Livermore, CA
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2186
| | 09-24-2008 12:34 AM |
| Posted By AlexRed on 09-23-2008 03:12 PM
the home vineyard in 2004 was labeled "San Francisco Bay" which i thought was interesting... i was offered the Home then but not now. looks like somebody paid up big time at auction for an 04 Home vineyard ($241???) wow. i have a couple of Family farms from 04 but i haven't tasted those either.
Wait...how recent was this auction?? I have two bottles of Home Vineyard and from talking with those that have tried them they suck.....major brett....so if I can unload them at over $200/bottle......
Please advise. I've never sold wine at auction, but I'm ready! I also have three Family Farms if those are going for anything decent. Word is the entire vintage is brett city! Chris | | | |
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David Spriggs
Grape Fermenter
Posts: 647
| | 09-24-2008 02:10 AM |
| Posted By R8der on 09-24-2008 12:34 AM Word is the entire vintage is brett city!
Uh oh. I *hate* Brett... ok... I don't mind it in very smal doses. I haven't opened any of my Rhys from bottle (I've opened many of the Alesias). I guess I should break these out and try.
-Dave-
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