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2002 Dr. Loosen Bernkasteler Lay Kabinett Last Post 01-12-2004 12:47 PM by ChangeMe. 5 Replies. | Sort: |
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Carl  Grape Fermenter
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 | | 01-08-2004 04:20 PM |
| Golden color, fat legs. Apples and peaches dominate the nose. Only 7.5% alcohol but quite dry in the mouth. Again apples, with sweet pink grapefruit. Slight spritz which made it very refreshing.
Day 2 - big, candied apple nose. The spritz is gone. The wine tastes a lot sweeter - candied apples, citrus, lychees, honey. Frankly, I preferred it right when it was opened.
I have never had a wine from this vineyard , only from its neighbors e.g. the Doctor, Wehlener Sonnenuhr, Ürziger Würzgarten, Graacher Himmelreich. So I don't know if the wine's characteristics have more to do with the vineyard or the vintage. Basically I would call it more "Pflaz-like" than "Mosel-like": fuller flavors, more golden in color, less minerality. | | |
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ChangeMe  Grape Puncher
 Posts: 986
 | | 01-08-2004 04:45 PM |
| I had the 2001 version of this same wine. I also found it atypical for the Mosel, though in '01 it was really sweet & had lots of tangerine flavors. I'm not quite sure what to make of the Bernkasteler Lay. | | | |
| ChangeMe  Grape Fermenter
 Posts: 442
 | | 01-09-2004 09:40 AM |
| I had it by early December. Poor thing never made it to Day 2. Enjoyed it for 12E. As others I had no previous experience with this vineyard (do they only make Kab and Eiswein from this??) so I just attributed the character to the vintage (my first 2002). | | | |
| ChangeMe  Grape Truck Driver
 Posts: 38
 | | 01-09-2004 12:52 PM |
| I had a few Lays (no pun intended) when I visited. I almost always found them to be good, as good as Doktors, but priced a little better becuase the name is a little less known. I have found that I like most wines from Bernkastle. Better IMO that Piesport wines.
-Brett | | | |
| ChangeMe  Grape Puncher
 Posts: 986
 | | 01-09-2004 03:04 PM |
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I have found that I like most wines from Bernkastle. Better IMO that Piesport wines.
-Brett
Ooh...Them's fightin' words. 
Piesport has been unfairly maligned due to the nefarious efforts of unscrupulous merchant houses producing oceans of swill labelled Piesporter Michelsberg. There are any number of excellent producers making Piesporter Goldtropfchen (the real Piesport vineyard), including, but not limited to: Rheinhold Haart, St. Urbans-Hof, Hoffmann-Simon, Reuscher-Haart and von Kesselstatt. I've even had a couple of nice wines (including an '02 Eiswein) from the Piesporter Treppchen, which lies above the Goldtropfchen on the same hillside.
There's obviously great wine in Bernkastel as well, but I don't think the quality of the producers in the Doctor vineyard match those of the Goldtropfchen (Kesselstatt excepted since they own parcels in both). Loosen's efforts in the Lay and Prum and Selbach in the Badstube are very good (especially the Selbach Eisweins), but the Badstube will never have the class of the Goldtropfchen IMO. | | | |
| ChangeMe  Grape Truck Driver
 Posts: 38
 | | 01-12-2004 12:47 PM |
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Ooh...Them's fightin' words.  ... but the Badstube will never have the class of the Goldtropfchen IMO.
Put up yer dukes!
I agree that there are far too many Michaelsberg bottlings...it's especially troubling to me becuase we always have a bottle or 2 on hand...my wife really likes those pop wines when she just wants to have a glass with non-wine drinking friends.
All in all, I think most Piesporter (gold drop) wines are just a little too big and overwhelming...a little too Mosel-like (if that is possible). A little too peachey, minerally, fruity, and floral. Sorry, but I can't describe it any better than that! I prefer the northern portion of the middle Mosel a little more I guess...? -Brett | | | |
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