Wednesday, January 07, 2009                 Register

VinoCellar.com Wine Forums
Dr. F. Weins-Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese
Last Post 12-31-2002 09:21 PM byWinetex. 9 Replies.
AddThis - Bookmarking and Sharing ButtonPrinter Friendly
Sort:
PrevPrev NextNext
You are not authorized to post a reply.
AuthorMessages
GATC  Send Private Message
Wine Lover
Wine Lover
Posts: 4741

--
12-09-2002 05:30 AM  
Dr. F. Weins-Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese, Germany, 8.0% alcohol, $23.99

When I picked up my wines from Bill Mayer he mentioned that he thought the Weins-Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr was almost as good as the Christoffel. I had bought some on a recommendation from another dealer, so I thought I should try it sooner than later. Also, someone here asked about it, so it will be nice to compare notes.

So far the Mosel's that I've tried are the Christoffel Urziger Wurzgarten Kabinett, Dr. Loosen Erdener Treppchen Spatlese, Meulenhoff Wehlener Sonnenuhr Spatlese and the Maximin Grunhaus Abtsberg Auslese. What I've noticed is that all of the wines were better the second day or hours after opening, so I will be cautious in assessing its potentia now. The closed nose is something I'm starting to expect. It will open up later. It is definitely more concentrated and intense that the Christoffel kabinett (which is to be expected), Meulenhoff spatlese and the Dr. Loosen spatlese. Right after opening, the acid dominates. I think this is a good sign because there is plenty of fruit behind it that is tying to come out. I'm looking forward to trying it again tomorrow.
Jeremy Matthew  Send Private Message
Barrel Sampler
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2067

--
12-09-2002 11:15 PM  
Do you find Sonnenuhr is more delicate than many other MSR vineyards?
GATC  Send Private Message
Wine Lover
Wine Lover
Posts: 4741

--
12-11-2002 05:52 AM  
The second day, the wine filled out a little and had a tart apple sensation and the acid dominated. The third day, the wine rounded out with sweet ripe pear and white peach flavors. The sugar-acid balance was perfect. It is amazing what an evolution the wine made in 3 days. Unlike the Dr. Loosen, which changed but never really got better, this wine got very exciting, then very lush.
GATC  Send Private Message
Wine Lover
Wine Lover
Posts: 4741

--
12-11-2002 06:13 AM  
Jeremy, I'm not sure. It's generally more delicate than Erdener Treppchen and Herrenberg, and possibly Abtsberg and Urziger Wurzgarten. I guess I find Mosel's in general to be more delicate, or elegant or whatever term fits your experience best. In the great years, I think the Mosel's really shine because when something is delicate, but also intense (almost a contradiction), it's like magic. Although I'm glad that I bought a decent amount of Donnhoff (Nahe), Strub (Rheinhessen), Muller-Catoir and Darting (Pfalz), Leitz (Rheingau), I could have bought all Mosel and been content. The Darting was not elegant. It was an in your face kind of wine. Took me a few days to get used to it. It also mellowed in those few days as well.

Sorry, I forgot to state that this was a 2001.
Jeremy Matthew  Send Private Message
Barrel Sampler
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2067

--
12-12-2002 05:11 AM  
I must say I agree about the MSR being such a top region now. My favoured producers if Friedrich-Wilhelm-Gymnasium. I'm yet to find a wine of his I have not enjoyed.

I must say i am not a big fan of Pflaz wines. They often seem (And I hate to use this word but) comercial, mass market wines with little individual characters merit.
GATC  Send Private Message
Wine Lover
Wine Lover
Posts: 4741

--
12-12-2002 06:50 PM  
When I was reading Bill Mayer's brochure last night, it reminded me of your comment earlier. In the Weins-Prum section he states, "Great Wehleners are the lightest of all Mosels, elegant and filigree, but with an amazing density of flavor. The only Wehleners that I know of are Wehlener Sonnenuhrs, so it ties in with your comment very well. In the Selbach-Oster section which starts the Mosel section, he states, "...we arrive at the Mosel. It seems the heart of German wines. Here, the wines are the lightest and brightest in all Germany. The green gleam of a young Mosel seems to promise all the magic of which German wine is capable."

Jeremy Matthew  Send Private Message
Barrel Sampler
Barrel Sampler
Posts: 2067

--
12-13-2002 12:40 AM  
Poetic statements indeed.
Winetex  Send Private Message
Austin, Texas
Avatar
Master of Wine
Master of Wine
Posts: 11423

--
12-30-2002 08:14 PM  
I'm glad to see the notes on this one as it is my first German purchase in 3 years or so.
GATC  Send Private Message
Wine Lover
Wine Lover
Posts: 4741

--
12-31-2002 08:44 PM  
I noticed that WA have very complimentary notes on this wine, but gave it an 89. I would give this at least a 92. Of course, we are drinking all of these wines so early.


Winetex  Send Private Message
Austin, Texas
Avatar
Master of Wine
Master of Wine
Posts: 11423

--
12-31-2002 09:21 PM  
GATC - I have your list of Germans "to buy" with me now when I'm wine shopping. I'm going to drink some of them young so I can find out what I like since I don't have much German wine experience.
You are not authorized to post a reply.

Active Forums 4.1

Related Links

VinoCellar Updates

 


Who's Online
MembershipMembership:
Latest New User Latest:anjali
New TodayNew Today:2
New YesterdayNew Yesterday:0
User CountOverall:2138

People OnlinePeople Online:
VisitorsVisitors:56
MembersMembers:4
TotalTotal:60


Where Are They
Members Where Are They:
William Gibbs : Wine Forums
John Fones : Wine Forums
kpak . : Wine Forums
MT Pockets : My Messages
Anonymous User [14] : Home
Anonymous User [42] : Wine Forums

Privacy Statement    |    Terms Of UsePage generated in 0.25 seconds.    |    Copyright 2002-2008 by Revlus, Inc.