ojeffso 
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts: 4877
 | | 09-05-2006 07:25 PM |
| i know this wine is from napa, but not exactly sure where. one my local wine guys was told this vineyard was originally planted by the producer of the wizard of oz. no big deal. the big deal is that the 2002 scarecrow is suppossedly better than the 2002 harlan estate. can anyone shed some light? | | |
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Eric Mottram
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts: 4877
| | 09-05-2006 07:53 PM |
| thanks. i really would like to know if anyone on the board has tasted the wine or knows more about their story. people around here are proclaiming this to be the next harlan. | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5251
| | 09-05-2006 09:27 PM |
| Quote:
the big deal is that the 2002 scarecrow is suppossedly better than the 2002 harlan estate.
I think the first vintage is 2003. | | | Beta testing a new signature. | |
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DJ Hombre
Napa Valley, California
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1367
| | 09-05-2006 09:42 PM |
| Cohn Vineyard is an awesome site in Rutherford. Exceptional fruit. I haven't had Scarecrow, but I bet it's good, though not sure about the price tag. It's received massive pub in the last year or so. | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5251
| | 09-05-2006 10:06 PM |
| Laube has not "officially" reviewed it, but in a past blog, he referred to it as a "high 80's" wine. | | | Beta testing a new signature. | |
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Budman
Philly Suburbs
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 23749
| | 09-05-2006 10:44 PM |
| High 80s will cost you $100 per bottle!  | | | |
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Winegeek
San Francisco
Barrel Racker
Posts: 1534
| | 09-06-2006 12:29 AM |
| Quote:
the big deal is that the 2002 scarecrow is suppossedly better than the 2002 harlan estate. can anyone shed some light?
The wine is good but anyone who thinks that Scarecrow is in the same league as Harlan is either nuts or has some wine to sell.
(While 2003 was the first commercial vintage of Scarecrow, it's certainly possible that there was a small amount of wine made for family and friends in 2002.)
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Chico
Grape Sorter
Posts: 227
| | 09-10-2006 02:27 PM |
| I had it a while back nice wine. I think laubes scoring have come down a bit much since the days of 95 pointers that he would hand out pretty easy. If I had to give it a score it would be around a 92-93 point wine. | | | |
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JimmyV
Central Connecticut
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5251
| | 09-14-2006 08:02 PM |
| "Official" Laube score is now published: 88 pts. | | | Beta testing a new signature. | |
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ojeffso
warren, new jersey
Wine Lover
Posts: 4877
| | 12-23-2006 02:52 PM |
| well, i see parker didn't answer my question about the 2002, but did answer the 2003 question. scrarecrow is better than harlan. | | | |
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Bob Bressler
Napa Valley
Wine Lover
Posts: 4969
| | 12-23-2006 06:43 PM |
| Someone passed me a glass of the 02 the other day wthout telling me what is was. I guessed Silver Oak. | | | |
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Dave
Wine Connoisseur
Posts: 5831
| | 12-23-2006 08:18 PM |
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Someone passed me a glass of the 02 the other day wthout telling me what is was. I guessed Silver Oak.
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winebrat
Sacramento, Ca.
Wine Lover
Posts: 4571
| | 12-24-2006 04:57 AM |
| Quote:
Someone passed me a glass of the 02 the other day wthout telling me what is was. I guessed Silver Oak.
Not a fan of the overhyped wine. It is sold out thought, FYI  | | | "Everyday is worthy of a glass of sparkling wine" - Andrea Immer MS | |
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Winetex
Austin, Texas
Master of Wine
Posts: 11423
| | 12-24-2006 03:58 PM |
| Parker thought it was 98 points of good. | | | |
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30967
| | 12-24-2006 06:04 PM |
| Quote:
Parker thought it was 98 points of good.
Without copying Parker's review of the wine here is what he says about the pedigree.
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Any debut wine that is this impressive requires research. The story goes as follows: In 1945, the famed John Daniel, Jr., who made so many historically great wines at Inglenook, convinced a neighbor of his, J. J. Cohn, to plant 80 acres of Cabernet vines, and the fruit became a component of Inglenook’s series of great Cabernet Sauvignons. Cohn, who owned the property and planted the vineyard at the insistence of John Daniel, had a prominent career in Hollywood as chief of production at MGM, where he played a role in the making of such movies as “Ben Hur,” “Mutiny on the Bounty,” and his favorite movie apparently, “The Wizard of Oz,” to which the Scarecrow label pays tribute. The 2003 Scarecrow (471 cases, all from the Rutherford area of Napa) was bottled unfined and unfiltered. The man behind this wine today is the grandson of J. J. Cohn, Bret Lopez, and his winemaker is Celia Masyczek, who first became well-known working at Staglin. Much of this blend still comes from the old dry-farmed Cabernet Sauvignon vines planted in 1945 by J. J. Cohn.
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David Niederauer
Los Gatos, CA
VinoCellar.com Extraordinaire
Posts: 30967
| | 12-24-2006 06:05 PM |
| Quote:
Someone passed me a glass of the 02 the other day wthout telling me what is was. I guessed Silver Oak.
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KGB
Grape Truck Driver
Posts: 29
| | 02-12-2007 07:00 PM |
| is anyone here on the scarecrow mailing list? i signed up for it but pretty recently. i'm wondering how long it will take to get an allocation. | | | |
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winebrat
Sacramento, Ca.
Wine Lover
Posts: 4571
| | 02-16-2007 07:26 AM |
| not worth it. buy Jones or Bressler | | | "Everyday is worthy of a glass of sparkling wine" - Andrea Immer MS | |
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LC17SMP
Cypress, Ca.
Barrel Filler
Posts: 1055
| | 02-16-2007 05:43 PM |
| A restaurant near me has the 2003 on their list for $210 and they had multiple bottles. I almost asked if I could grab one for the road. It would certianly end up at auction.  | | | LC17SMP | |
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